The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence. (Think of the dodo bird. It does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past.).
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Skeletal/fossil remains of the Dodo bird, the Roc and other UNKNOWN creatures have been found. Many.
We didn't have stories about them from the ancient world, when they were first found some idiots tried to tie them to legends of gigantic birds (like the Thunderbird) but these things couldn't glide let alone fly.
Origin of unicorns- Hebrew tourists or slaves too stupid to realize the Babylonian representations of bulls in strict profile were not one-horned beasts. Image search on Ishtar Gates, Babylon. See also the sirrush, origin of dragon myths.
Is this more believing things are real because they can be imagined? Then we should believe in elves, gnomes, leprechauns, sprites, pixies, bigfoot, and the Loch Ness Monster?
And this goes far more toward proving the Invisible Pink Unicorn is real rather than Yahweh.
I thought the standard fundie answer is that the original text referred to a real animal, such as an antelope or a breed of cattle. Geez, Elizabeth, get with the program!
The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence.
That's correct. We should doubt its past existence based on the complete lack of evidence for said existence.
(Think of the dodo bird. It does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past.).
We don't doubt its existence because we have evidence that it existed.
If you've got some evidence that unicorns exist (or have existed), we'll talk. Until then...get out of the pool, kid.
Dear Dodo Christian, you're right, simply the absence of unicorns today does not preclude their existing at some time, however, there is NO credible evidence for the past existence of unicorns, no credible sightings, no fossils, no horns or hides, NOTHING. Therefore, the only prudent way to proceed is to deny their existence until some credible evidence is supplied. It's just like the God question.
We have eye-witness evidence and actual physical evidence of the past existence of dodo birds.
We do not doubt it because there is evidence it existed, find evidence* unicorns existed and we'll talk.
*Evidence must stand up to scientific study and scrutiny.
The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence
You're right, but science doesn't claim the unicorn never existed based on it's absence in the modern day alone.
Think of the dodo bird. It does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past.
Yes, but the Dodo, quite unlike the unicorn, is present in the fossil record.
This has to be the 5th time I've heard one of you nuts try and defend the existence of unicorns. WHY? What the fuck is it with unicorns?
Is your magical dream land not good enough with all the bollocks about god and heaven?
Skynight
I assume Canadiest is talking about elephant birds, which are thought to be where the stories of rukhs came from.
The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence.
It doesn't. No one doubts the existence of unicorns simply because there aren't any about today. Try addressing the real reason for doubt; not some straw-man of your own inventing.
Unicorns are mythical but there may be a grain of truth. Some goats and antelope have horns that grow close together and, at a distance, they could appear to have a single horn. Likewise, horns can be broken off, deformed, or stunted due to injury or genetic defect. That being said, the most logical source for the unicorn myth is the Indian rhino.
One thing is certain. No such thing as a horse, goat, or antelope with a single horn in the center of the head has ever been found. Zero. Nada. Zip.
This quote reminds me of erstwhile Fundie of the Year 'Bro Randy' of 'Teens-4-Christ'. Having claimed that unicorns once existed he was asked about satyrs (there are over fifty references to them in the OT).
'No', he said, 'they were just goats'. So much for his KJV1611 infallibility...
Edit: Having just read the AIG article my mind is boggled by its conclusion: 'The Bible is clearly describing a real animal. The unicorn mentioned in the Bible was a powerful animal possessing one or two strong horns'. There are two horned unicorns in Fundieland?
This is what happens when a biblical literalist reads their "book". Misinterpreted words, bad translations, even bad typesetting can change everything.
"Think of the dodo bird. It does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past."
That's because we have physiological evidence of their existence (despite their extinction):
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"The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence."
O RLY? Now find for me a unicorn skull, horn and all.
PROTIP: Narwhal tusks.
@JonathanE
"This is what happens when a biblical literalist reads their "book". Misinterpreted words, bad translations, even bad typesetting can change everything.2
But as they claim, The Bible is the literal 'Word of God' after all.
So it should be no problem for Elizabeth to build a wheel using the Biblical mathematical basis that Pi = exactly 3.
And the Bible is the inerrant 'Word of God'. Amirite?:
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Good luck with that wheel's construction, Elizabeth.
Well the case with the dodo bird is that it is actually documented to have existed during human history and was hunted to extinction sometime within the last 500 years or so, unicorns however have no documentation, at all, we have never found a fossil of a unicorn, let alone a living one ever in human history, the fact is, unicorns have never existed, but you wouldn't know that because you're looking for the answers in genesis, not in say a biology or history textbook, which would be a much more credible source.
Probably something like 99-point-something percent of all species that have ever existed are now non-existent. However, the evidence that they did exist is plain for all to see (except deluded fundie idiots).
Unicorns, like dragons, seem to have come and gone without leaving a single trace of their existence. Mmmmm, I wonder why?
But we have EVIDENCE of the dodo, including both skeletons and intact mummified animal.
Find me a unicorn skeleton, and I will believe in unicorns.
"(Think of the dodo bird. It does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past.)." SHAME ON YOU , Elizabeth Mitchell!
Repent NOW for your blasphemy, lest Answers in Genesis revoke your membership card!
Unicorn fossils are as scarce as the brain cells between your ears, Lizzie dear. The absolute lack of evidence for the existence of unicorns is in fact remarkably similar to the absolute lack of evidence for the existence of any god, including yours.
"The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence"
So, according to your logic, "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" is a documentary series...?!
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Speaking as a Brony, I like it too (can't wait for the 3rd series!), but in your case, all I can say is...
'Ooookie Dokie Lokiiiiii...!' [/Pinkie Pie]
(*backs away slowly *) O_o;
Confused?
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