[explaining why Harry Potter denigrates people who do not use black magic]
"Uncle Vernon made another funny noise, like a mouse being trodden on." [p. 47] Remember Adolf Hitler, the most famous Black Magick wizard in modern history? He depicted Jews as Rats in his Propaganda Machinery, convincing the Germans they should extermination the "vermin".
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". . . I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work."
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people."
-Hitler, April 12, 1922 from a speech at Munich.
WTF does this guy think he is proving by tacking random symbolism on things? Hitler is not traditionally associated with black magic, no matter what this guy wants to say, and, despite Hitler associating Jews with rats in his propaganda, the association of ANYONE with rats is also a common literary comparison to suggest that the character compared to the rat is conniving and (morally) dirty. Which, unfortunately, is an entirely different connotation than the one given by the word "mouse", which is more associated with being meek, mildly disgusting to cute depending upon your own perspective, and annoying.
Sigh...the critical reading gods frown upon on this day.
Remember Adolf Hitler, the most famous Black Magick wizard in modern history?
What are you on? Whatever it is, we need to cut the dosage, pronto
That is like, so deep, oh my god, like, the way you've, like, totally gotten inside Rowling's head like that, so, like, is she, like, a hilterite too? Like, Whoaaaa, you're totally blowing by mind, dude.
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"Remember Adolf Hitler, the most famous Black Magick wizard in modern history?"
That would be Crowley, not Hitler. Hitler was a Christian.
"He depicted Jews as Rats in his Propaganda Machinery, convincing the Germans they should extermination the "vermin"."
Aaaand?
"Uncle Vernon made another funny noise, like a mouse being trodden on." :
a bloody big mouse. More like a bad tempered hamster!
Riiiiiight...
I thought Godwins were just for the internet!
Anyway, you idiot, she was making a comparison of the noises, not saying that Vernon IS a rat.
Ooh, is Hitler high enough level to cast Fireball?
Wizards don't really become useful until they can cast Fireball.
He's a Creationist Christian. But you see, he was near if not, a genius.
But they say theres a thin line between genius and madman and what put Hitler over it was (probably) trying to make intelligence work with Christianity.
All your intelligent religious leaders are madmen.
'Remember Adolf Hitler, the most famous Black Magick wizard in modern history?'
What....the...FUCK??? Only a fundy would believe this nonsense. Adolf was a Christian who proclaimed he was doing 'the Lord's work' by implementing the horrible 'Final Solution'.
Because she couldn't have used that as an amusing way of conveying the sound he made. That's just unthinkable. It has to be her hidden code for her deep seated Aryan roots, which she so cleverly hid that only you can find it. That is the only feasible explanation. Right. Now take your meds before I call the orderly.
"Uncle Vernon made another funny noise, like a mouse being trodden on." [p. 47] Remember Adolf Hitler, the most famous Black Magick wizard in modern history?
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Yes! Of course! Everyone knows Hitler was a black mage! Grade-fucking-one knowledge here! In fact, there's a comic book highly informative document shows it all!
He depicted Jews as Rats in his Propaganda Machinery, convincing the Germans they should extermination the "vermin".
Therefore, everyone who uses a simile to a mouse must logically be a Nazi.
Dumbass.
Sorry, you misspelled there, it's not "Black Magic wizard", it should be "Christian Creationist"
There are lots of more disparaging quips about "muggles" in these books. Why don't you quote any of those instead? Then your argument might actually make sense.
While that is a denigration of mice (thanks for associating us with a guy who's supposed to be a strawman with less positive qualities than Voldemort, JK), the put downs of "muggles" very rarely rise to Hitler-esque purportions.
While the only wizard to see value in technology is considered laughably backwards and eccentric, he was not investigated by the MoM for being a traitor. Marriage between mages and muggles was tolerated, and the muggles were allowed to live in relative peace.
While the occasional muggle was given brain damage from too many memory erasure spells, the average mage saw them as laughably backward, but still human and "life worthy of life"
Harry Potter is nothing but wish-fullfillment. That is why it is popular. It's like Left Behind, only without Rambo-Harry slaughtering millions of people.
ETA: What kind of noise does a "mouse being trodden upon" even make? Did JK Rowling test several species out? "hmmm, he wouldn't sound like a hare...Let's try a Norway Rat....No, Too low-pitched. Guinea Pig?..."
No, no, no, no, my friend. You're getting it aaalllll wrong. Voldemort's the one who's supposed to be Hitler.
You take one single sentence out of a seven books' series, and some ten-odd additional works, and that is your evidence?
You'd find much more denigration on people who DO use black magic, actually.
Uncle Vernon was an asshole, a fundamentalist Normal Person. The series denigrates him for being an asshole, not for not using black magic.
Black Magick wizard = Christian/Catholic?
Well, OK, if you say so, but are you bragging or complaining?
So if I think to myself “I have to piss like a horse.”, what I really mean it that I want people to put a saddle on me and mount me?
I hope they will at least wait until I’m finished in the bathroom
Ouch! You must have cricked your whole body, with contortionist moves like that.
It's stated time and time again in the Harry Potter books that the reason Uncle Vernon is horrible is NOT because he's a muggle.
Besides, there are seven books, and several affiliated books, in the Harry Potter series, and that's the best example you can find of muggles being denigrated? What about the time when the Death Eaters levitated the Roberts family after the Quidditch World Cup, in Goblet of Fire?
Many Germans already thought that Jews were "vermin"; that was one of the reasons they elected Hitler in 1933. Also, extermination is not a verb.
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