[To an ex-Christian]
You probably were not saved in the first place. You are a victim of the easy" believism" of our day.
If you had fruit and if you were a child of God, then you would have remained in the faith. But the fact that you fell away shows that you are not a child of God, but are a child of the evil one.
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There is no one that fundies hate as viciously as someone who has escaped what still holds them in slavery. It doesn't take a huge logical leap to figure out that, from their point of view, since these people are subhuman, cruelty and death are not only permitted but laudable.
"You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on that system, that they will fight to protect it"
--Morpheus to Neo in The Matrix
@Osiris.
Indeedy-doody! I'm into Wineism myself - the Red denomination especially. I also choose to combine it at times with Brieism and Watercrackerism, which makes for an extremely enlightening evening.
Wineism is a very special ism, unlike Watercrackerism. Once you're a true Wineist you can't go back. If you decide you no longer wish to be a Wineist then you obviously weren't a true Wineist in the first place.
Heather:
You goddamned traitor. Brieism and Watercrackerism are for liberal splitters -- the losers who are too weak for even a plate of tapas. You need to embrace the garlickist, the seafoodist, the slabs-of-beef-and-lambist, and the big-piles-of-pastaist ways.
Careful Brian X , your straying into flying spaghetti monster territory there.
I personally am a member of the joint Jack Danielsism-Mary Janeism church of Munchies and Xbox 360tm
"That is nae a proper kilt! It's just a plaid skirt!"
"But it's got my family tartan on it and everything -- my grandmother from the Hebrides made it for me..."
"Bah! If it's nae Scottish it's crap!"
"[To an ex-Christian]
You probably were not saved in the first place. You are a victim of the easy" believism" of our day."
So, let me see if I get this right...this guy got saved...at least he (and every other like-minded person) THOUGHT he was saved because he believed and he got baptised by dunking and was therefore saved. But he really WASN'T saved, just everybody (including him) thought so. And the way everybody found out he wasn't saved is that he stopped believing in the mumbo-jumbo.
So, what does that mean for the gazillion fundies who presently believe themselves to be saved? Are they really? or do they just THINK they are...but may find out later that they are not? Or do you get un-saved when reason asserts itself in the brain?
And how do you tell the saved from the pseudo-saved?
@Ambrielle
Why not join Brewism. It embraces all that is good of all wines and beers.
Join us, and have a taste of all that has fermented.
Let me see your reasoning. In your book, to be a Christian is to accept Christ as your Lord and Saviour and nothing else. So, virtually any baby is not a Christian. Later in life, you accept him but you change your mind. Again, what does it mean to be a "child of God", if not in the physical sense like Jesus was?. What does it mean all that garbage to "accept Christ as your Lord and Saviour"?
"But the fact that you fell away shows that you are not a child of God, but are a child of the evil one."
The fact that you would even try to make this judgement shows you are not worshipping God, or Jesus, but a particular version of a particular holy book.
@ Paler_Face: Oh, I've dabbled in Brewism all right, and performed the holy Homebrew. But on a Sunday morning, it seemed like Satan was pounding inside my head, so I stopped attending the weekly Saturday night worships. Can one be both a Brewist and a Wineist?
I started as a Rumist, then moved into Hopsism and Absintheism. But my tastes have grown. I'm now a full member of the Church of Alcoholism.
Right, so can we apply this logic to the so-called ex-atheists, ex-homosexuals, ex-Muslims, etc?
Or will Bible John try to claim those don't count?
I always find this amusing...Jesus taught love and tolerance, but, according to his latest batch of disciples, if someone of their faith strays, or falters in their faith, rather than trying to embrace them, and bring them back to the fold, they are to slam the door on their ass so fast it's not even funny.
Amanda wrote:
"What does fruit have to do with anything?" Clearly, by "fruit," Bible John means homosexual. If you are gay and are a child of God, you'll remain in the faith.
BibleJohn, The scriptures say "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he." If a person believes in Christ as her/his Savior can't you accept that it is JUST between the human and the god? You sound like the men in the Book of Job who told Job that he had fallen away from his true religion because of all the clalmities that befell him. What a twit. One other thing according to the Christos true religion mean so minister to the widows and orphaned children. Have you, by any chance, adopted anyone?
Oh dear sister Heather. I myself are a Red Wineist, although in the past I have strayed to the White denomination. I reconverted to Red, but it is something I struggle with to this day.Ambrielle
Red wineism? There is no such thing! Followers of Red Wineism aren't true wineists. The only true drunkenness comes from following the path of the one true pure White Wineism.
@Mr Smith: How dare you? We of the Red Wineists are of the true blood. Blood is red, thus we follow the divine. Duh! Besides, our holy drink doesn't have as much of those nasty sulphites; they are of the devil.
FIXED:
You probably were not wined and dined in the first place. You are a victim of the easy eatism of our day.
If you had meatballs and if you were a child of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then you would have remained at your beer volcano. But the fact that you fell away shows that you are not a child of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but are a child of the evil pasta chef.
so a christian needs fruit ? I never heard of that. Can I use an applesauce cup ? or does it have to be a real piece of fruit ?
A child of Satan , cool, he killed a lot less people than God .
lol
Bible's a forgery John.
Sorry.
Idiot.
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