Now here is the problem. If there are intelligent beings on other planets, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected. So these beings would have to die because death was the penalty for sin. One day their planet will be destroyed by fire during God’s final judgment, but they cannot have salvation because that blessing is given only to humans.
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So, not only do they get the shaft because a rib woman ate an apple (or fig, or whatever) given to her by a talking snake, but they're getting screwed over by something that happened on another planet?
If I were them, I'd be royally pissed.
*thumps his head on the desk*
Oh, oh sweet AiG. If I hadn't, in the past, known people who swore by your drivel as the answers to all their questions, it would be laughable. Instead, it's just vaguely worrying.
So, since your god created all, it would appear that he created an entire species only to destroy it?
What an arrogant, ridiculous god you worship.
First there was geocentricity, then heliocentricity, then non-centricity...
It seems harder to get rid of the ego-centricity.
Arrogant much? I'm sorry folks....Isn't the entire purpose of religion supposed to be a lesson in fuckin humility? That there is something out there greater than yourself?
Look pal....There is almost assuredly life on other planets. Some of them might actually have civilizations on them. Some of them could potentially be more technologically advanced than us. To claim that magic jesus is gonna come back and cast every fucking planet in the solar system into hell except for the back water jackasses on a little green planet is the most arrogant assumption you could ever make.
Please. Go fuck yourself.
Wow, Anthropocentrism at its best :D
Because (according to your faith) god wrote the bible for humans and sent his son to earth, you assume that he wouldn´t be able to write a holy book for any alien species and send his son there as well?
Sounds snobbish, even for a fundamentalist :D
Right now, on the International Space Station, there is an astronaut with the name Kenneth Ham. I feel so sorry for that poor guy, sharing a name with this [expletive deleted].
~David D.G.
That's a little unfair, isn't it? If God really did create more than one race of sentient creatures, why would he damn all but one of them to eternal torment? What's the point? That would be like God playing favorites with one group of people, something that good ol' Yahweh would never do!
Oh, wait...
Now here is the problem. If there are intelligent beings on other continents, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected. So these beings would have to die because death was the penalty for sin. One day their continent will be destroyed by fire during God’s final judgment, but they cannot have salvation because that blessing is given only to humans who lived close enough to the Middle East to hear about Jesus.
Kenny, how do you know the aliens aren't humans? If "god" created them to inhabit their planet --
@ Freboy, how about eccentricity ?
Now here is the problem. There is no proof that either of the genesis stories has any basis in reality.
And here's another problem. The mythology of a small tribe of belligerent Levantine hillbillies doesn't even jibe with the more reputable Earthbound historical sources.
Asshat.
Oh yay, more inane babble from high-profile cretinits.
Aren't you just an arrogant dick, assuming that your God loves humans over all other hypothetical intelligent lifeforms?
No wonder the aliens aren't talking to us, they are pissed off by fuckwits like Ken Ham.
It's not a problem because it is all rubbish.
And even if your version of God did exist, how do you know he didn't provide for salvation for other sentient species, anyway?
So I guess what Ken is saying is that ET needs Jesus too? That when we discover alien life we need to get them saved? Ken, give it up already. When the aliens land their ships on the White House lawn, religion will be largely tag-on-the-toe dead the next morning.
Some of these people would be shocked that people in the 1700s tried to use Christianity to prove the existence of life on other planets (by basically saying God would have wasted a lot of space if there wasn't).
Also, C. S. Lewis' Space Trilogy. Lots of intelligent species, and an explanation of how salvation would work for them.
Hummbard tried something like this years ago. He said something like "If there are aliens out there then they have the word of God too" And the crowd all mumered in agreement.
This dispite our world not knowing it and many where it is practiced not being raised in it
Holy fucking shit eating jesus. Now they're making up beings, and damning them. This is getting way too fucking weird. When I first read this, it felt so surreal, like I was in an episode of the Twilight Zone. Hammie, put down the bong, please. You're killing your brain cells at an ever increasing rate.
So...God will judge them..for the fall of people from...another planet...that they had no involvement in...but not save them?
You just have to love the logic of this one. Of course, it's not far from the logic that you're born a sinner, even if you die before you actually fucking "sin" of your own merit.
Ken Ham, proving he sucks hard once again...
Eh... I think an alien fundie would just say something back like;
'But your monkey god is fake! I know so because the TRUE god privately revealed to me that shi made us flying polyps in hir image! Also, I will now consume your liver.'
So aliens on other planets, in other galaxies, far, far away will go to hell not ever having even heard of The Jebus, on who's own planet 2/3 of the entire population have never heard of either, in 2,000 years. Sounds fair to me.
Anon-e-moose
"Now here is the problem. If there are intelligent beings on other planets, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected."
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'Then he [The Star Child*] waited, marshaling his thoughts and brooding over his still untested powers. For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next. But he would think of something . '
-"2001: A Space Odyssey", Arthur C. Clarke
*- The 'Star Child', formerly astronaut Dr. David Bowman. Now here is the problem: Even the 'Watchmaker' had to have a mother and father; all sentient beings have an origin, Kenny. No Exceptions.
'ALL THESE WORLDS
ARE YOURS EXCEPT
EUROPA
ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE
USE THEM TOGETHER
USE THEM IN PEACE'
- HAL 9000-relayed message to Earth, from David Bowman, "2010"
The last scene in that sequel? The plant life-filled jungle on the new world of Europa. A new Eden. And a Monolith. Waiting...!
I bet if an alien was reading this comment by Ken Ham the Bullshit Man, he would be like, "Yeah, thanks a whole lot, God! That's really reassuring! You fucking dickhead!"
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