No it's not because of the vaccines. In countries where there are more Christians there should be better health because Christians ought to be following the health and hygiene principles found in the Bible. When the secular world adopted those principles, incidences of disease went down.
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Which is why the United States has one of the highest mortality rates and lowest life expectancies in the First World.
I'd say the second amendment is to blame for that,
If this were true, disease should have started declining 2,000 year ago due to Christian hygiene. But 1,400 years after Christianity began, 1/3 of the human population of Europe was killed by the Plague. Why did smallpox and polio kill people until the invention of vaccinations? Did Christians suddenly start following Biblical health and hygiene principles in the 19th century? Does Katy Anne even listen to the nonsense she spouts?
Wow! Such ignorance! I'm almost impressed.
You really should study some history and talk to a doctor. A modern doctor, not a "christian scientist."
Uh, no. Christianity was long notoriously nasty-smelling and dirty. It wasn't until Martin Luther's time until Christians figured out the concept of hygiene.
(The Jews had never had a problem with it, and therefore got their asses kicked when the plagues didn't hit them as hard. The Dark Ages were well named.)
What about all those heathen Romans, what with the cleanest cities and people in the ancient world? And fast foward to Christian-ruled medieval Europe, where most people lived in their own excrement?
This is why everyone needs to take an unbiased history class.
As I recall, the Biblical treatment for leprosy was to tell the sufferer they were cursed by God and exile them from society as a containment exercise.
Now we can kill the microbe responsible with Dapsone, Rifampin, Clofazimine, Ethionamide etc etc, limit the physical damage caused and prevent the sufferer being infectious. If not for lingering social taboos patients can live a normal life.
Tell me again, why is the Biblical treatment better?
Why do fundies insist on creating a history that not only patently false, but actually a direct contradiction to the facts? #9 people!!! Pagan Rome had far better hygene and sanitation in the 1st century than Christian Rome a 1000 years later. The heathen Muslims kept far better medical and sanitary practices for a thousand years than mideval Christians. We won't even go into what the non-Christian orientals wrote about the early Christians smell and lack of cleanliness. In short Katy-Anne, you or someone you are a mindless sheep to, made that shit up and didn't even wipe their ass.
Ugh, that's not the worst comment from this thread, although this one also belongs in RSTDT:
"This is just another of the many reasons we should take a stand against the invasion of our countries by heathens who often bring diseases into our midst.
Do we really need more ungodly people in our country?" (John81)
Our advances in medicine owe much to departure from those wonderful health and hygeine principles found in the Bible. Your inerrant holy book never mentions the germ theory of disease and instead tells us to resort to faith healing. Oops, my bad -- the germ theory of disease is "just a theory," isn't it.
Ohh, if only I had lived in the time of Jesus, I would not be suffering the health problems I now have.
- i.e., I'd have died long before I reached what we now call "middle age."
And, nevertheless, we live more now than in the Middle Ages. Moreover, at the time, Chinese and Arabic countries were better off than us then.
@flipper and #318836
Your posts reminded me of one of my middle school history textbook, more precisely a (very sarcastic) letter from a Crusades-era Arabian physician describing the "wonders" of Xian/European medical science to one of his peers. He described several cases of Xian patients getting scared/bullied into not letting a heathen treat them, and the results of the treatments Xian "medicine" prescribed.
The two cases I remember were:
- a knight with an infected leg wound. The physician was treating it with poultices, that in his experience should have drained the pus and allowed the leg to heal, when a Xian medecine man came, dismissed the "heathen remedies" as useless and imperilling the knight's soul, and told him that he needed to have the leg chopped off or he'd die. In the end, the unnecessary amputation was (incompetently) performed, and it ended up killing the knight.
- a noblewoman complaining from headaches, hot flashes and other discomforts. The physician's diagnosis was that her diet was the cause of her problems, and that she should particularly lay off the mustard and spices (IIRC). She followed his advice, got better, then a Xian charlatan convinced her that all she needed to do was pray the problems away. She went back to her bad diet, and not very surprisingly relapsed. The charlatan then diagnosed her as possessed, and to exorcise the demon he had her head shaved before cutting a cross on her skull and putting salt on the wound. The wound got infected and she died.
Only that countries such as Colombia, America(the Bible Belt), Jordania, or Africa, all of them very Christians, score about the worst. Instead of making conjetures, look at statistics for a while.
Okay ... Hands up any J.S. Mill followers?
2,3,4 ... Great - Here are your torches and pitchforks, we're off to Katy-Anne's place to do the greatest good for the greatest number.
(Implied menacing threat of fatal wounding totally intended.)
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