The dimocrats own the concept of shooting themselves in the gonads. Since the thugs don't care about the evil within their party, I don't care about any misdeeds done by dimocrats. Franken could be accused of raping Ann Frank on the steps of the nearest temple and I would still be on his side. The dimocrats holier than the Republicans attitude will do nothing more than guarantee the permanency of the rethug reich.
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Well someone is projecting a lot. With the of course rare idiotic exception that always exists in a large group, pretty much every democrat condemned Al franked for his actions, even though what he did was no where near as bad as what people like roy moore did, if still obviously bad, and he handled things way more ethically in the aftermath. On the other hand it seems like most republicans in Alabama atleast are still on the side of Roy Moore.
Edit: Oops, wrote my name wrong.
Uh huh...except the 'our party or bust' mentality seems to be hitting Trump's followers far harder than it is the people who want to see a full report of Franken's actions before going head-hunting.
It's amazing to me just how much projection comes from the right. Their leaders are walking catastrophes with more skeletons in their closets than a natural history museum. Whenever anyone points this out to hard-core rightists (and I'm not talking about sane Republicans), they either double-down in defense of their leaders or/and they reply with some variation of, '...b-b-but the LEFT!'
An objective look at indicators such as national debt load, individual debt load, education relative to other countries, healthcare, environmental protection, and limitations on what is permissible during warfare would all show Dems just waxing the fucking floor with the alt-right. None of that seems to matter to true believers such as the OP.
Thugs and evil within the party? Sounds like you're talking about the Orange Clown and that Judge Moore creep.
Al Franken was born some 6 years after Anne Frank died of typhus and was supposedly incinerated in Bergen-Belsen.
Rethug reich? Sounds a bit Nazi-esque...
rethug reich
That's wrong thinking but he's right about the most Republican voters. Massive hypocrisy and a genuine love of despicable people are features.
You'll never turn most Republican off someone by pointing out how huge of an asshole they are, that's truly what they like about them.
And yet when Duggar was found having molested his sisters and a friend, the right couldn't stop trying to bury it. Roy Moore. Harassed girls and even if they could have consented, it sounds like none did. He doesn't take no for an answer. Fuck off.
If I read this correctly, this guy has contempt for the "rethug" and the "dimocrat"?
I doubt he supports Roy Moore.
I've seen conservatives who acknowledge that Democrats are better at cleaning out their bad actors than Republicans are. However, they've always framed that as "liberals eat their own" or something similarly negative. So there's no winning with them either way. Not that it really matters; we don't want to be like them anyway.
I'm a bit dismayed by this new-found voice of women, because I thought we settled that half a century ago. How did the next generation forget to protest when they were treated badly? I don't mean the juveniles; I mean the adult women in congress, the adult women that may have had unwanted kisses forced upon them or unwanted hands grabbing at them.
Ms. Gillebrandt doesn't think we should be spending time right now defining kinds of sexual abuse, but I do. There is a great big difference between someone who occasionally grabs a woman in a drunken hug and someone who deliberately stalks a mall and tracks down a student and phones her in her school. We are a country of laws. We should be able to distinguish nuisances from crimes, and we should be able to tell a man to stop that right now, and have them listen.
I understand the difference between sexual advances toward adults, and the same actions toward juveniles or toward subordinates that may feel pressured. That's another distinction that a civilized society should make. But if the actions of an abuser are not made known to a personnel office or an ethics committee, there's no warning to keep it from happening again. Congress should be able to police itself, such that any complaint would be bumped up to the appropriate office AND THE OFFENDER SHOULD GET AN OFFICIAL REPRIMAND. I feel in most cases that would have been sufficient to stop it cold. If an abuser has no official complaints, he may feel entitled to try again, and THAT should have been stopped the first time.
Come on, women, we went through all that hard work in the sixties for you. Raise your head high and raise your voice higher still. If necessary, say loudly (not caring who hears) "Mr. ______, take your hands off my ass!"
I've seen conservatives who acknowledge that Democrats are better at cleaning out their bad actors than Republicans are. However, they've always framed that as "liberals eat their own" or something similarly negative. So there's no winning with them either way.
Yep. Democrats are acting like they've achieved something great here. Fact is, Democratic voters already KNOW the Democrats are better for women's rights, and Republican voters don't CARE. They've achieved nothing, but to shoot themselves in the foot and to show Republicans that they'll shoot each other if the right says "Shoot that guy!"
Once Trump starts WW3 and the bombs start falling, will this bunch be high-fiving each other and celebrating 'cause they were "right"?
I just heard about the latest bunch of Al Franken accusations and....wow....Al's got a lot of them, too....and he just resigned (I see another special election on the horizon).
The fact that the Democratic Party actually holds their pervs responsible is proof that they're a billion times better than the GOP. That alone is sure to get them more votes.
@Kanna:
During the 60s through 80s, it was largely accepted that if a woman chooses not to be a housewife, then she'll get a ton of abuse, sexual or otherwise. And when it came to non-sexual abuse, women were often worse at abusing other women than men were, often because they believed they had to be that way in order to be taken seriously. There were always people who would stand against that, but they would mostly end up as stark examples why this was usually a bad idea. The authorities for whom you would report this kind of thing were nearly always men who saw nothing wrong with it, or who refused to condemn people for something they've done themselves. If one had any significant degree of money and/or influence and the offender was especially egregious one could possibly take it to court, but the news always treated it as an anomaly. Oh, I'm sure there were some women here and there who found themselves in an environment which was pretty safe because people made an effort to make it safe, but I'd never heard of any back then.
Since the 90s things have been gradually improving, but mostly beneath the surface. The people changed faster than the culture. Usually, to align the culture with the attitudes of a changing majority, you need a catalyst. The recent #metoo campaign is likely to be that catalyst. Yes, it took around 20-30 years, but unfortunately that's the way it goes sometimes.
While you will not find someone more disappointed in Al Franken than I, or someone who hates Donald & his crime party of thieves, liars & sexual abusers, this guy does just sounds like a petulant Bernie Bro. I will never defend Franken or what he supposedly did, but I've read more than once about his accusers being suspicious. I won't discount them, but it strikes me as a bit odd. It does also seem to me to be a little stupid to take away one of our most potent weapons when it comes to damaging the right wing. Al Franken may be a perv, but he's crafty & we could really use his talents for making republicans sweat right now.
And why anyone would ever want to paw at Leeanne Tweeden is beyond me. She looks trashy.
@SpukiKitty :
"The fact that the Democratic Party actually holds their pervs responsible is proof that they're a billion times better than the GOP. That alone is sure to get them more votes."
Unfortunately, people are so rock stupid--especially those who are at all attracted to Republicans--I'm not sure I can agree.
There was me, that is Blaid, and my three droogs, that is Josh, Roy, and Donnie, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would dumb you down and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-hypocrisy.
Honestly, I kinda agree with something my brother said: Al Franken should have gotten up and said:
"I will resign. I will resign if child molester Roy Moore does not become a US Senator, and self-admitted sexual predator Donald Trump resigns from the Presidency. At that time, I will gladly tender my resignation."
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