Ok so they were discussing this on another message board that I go on, and I got flamed pretty badly for saying stuff about Ham. First of all I was told that Ham wasn't cursed at all, it was Caanan, and second off I was told that I had been listening to a bunch of southern Americans that are racist and belong in the KKK. Now I don't want to offend anyone but what is the big deal? I have an understanding about some kind of war between the north and the south and whatever and that it had to do with black people but what in the world was it really about? I have been told that it is only people in the south who say Ham was cursed and stuff and whatever. Please help here first of all I think I see in the Bible that you are right and second of all I have an appaling lack of knowledge of American history!
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These morons should be required to interbreed with pigs. The children of such a union could only be better human beings than if they breed with one another.
Anyone who thinks that the Civil War wasn't about slavery should go and read The Cornerstone Speech , by CSA vice president Alexander Stephens, right now. Start at paragraph 9.
I read the whole thread and it was appallingly racist.
There was this one guy(with american flag on his avatar nad curiously Southkorean flag on his sig) versus everybody (mainly mrs.debbie)in a game fo "my bible quote is better than yours"
ps. On katyannes lack of knowledge on American history, she's australian and I don't know how much American history there is in the Down Under curriculum.
I want to beat her til she is a reddish pulp for being so flagrantly stupid.
Rest of the world, on behalf of America, I'm so, so, sorry. And yes, I weep for our future.
So,let me clarify this. Canaan was a region, and as far as I am concerned, Noah has three kids, Sem, Cam and Haphet. So, get some knowledge of your own Bible. Get American history straight, you. When slavery was over and there was a possibility of accepting black people in the church life, racists kept on being so and shunning them because it was justified in the Bible, where?, in the part where they say that Cam(or Ham, depending again on translation), from whom the blacks descend, according always to them, of course, was the son cursed by Noah. Racist exist in the South. That you haven´t found a biblically solution for that, and you don´t want to, it´s your business.
I read the whole thread and it was appallingly racist.
"On katyannes lack of knowledge on American history, she's australian and I don't know how much American history there is in the Down Under curriculum."
Hi VilleVicious
I'm an Aussie teacher and remarkably few schools down here teach anything about US History.
"... I have an understanding about some kind of war between the north and the south and whatever ... I have an appaling lack of knowledge of American history!"
I suspect you have an appalling lack of knowledge of everything, so why don't you just shut up about things you are ignorant of and stop saying stupidities?
Ok, there's nothing wrong about not knowing very much about a subject. However, when you don't know much, don't construct an argument based on semi-factlets that you think you know but aren't too sure. Ask some goddamn questions about history if your so ignorant, don't make shit up.
Actually, this is encouraging. Katyanne has been exposed to the rest of the world and is finding out that using the Bible to justify hating black people is a load of racist crap that came mainly out of the US south, and that maybe she should start questioning stuff. Hopefully, she'll learn something from the experience.
Their profound lack of knowledge about important world history is, quite frankly, upsetting.
I don't get it. I thought everyone in the developed world learnt about the American civil war. We do in Britain.
Holy hell, you do have an appalling lack of knowledge of American history. Public school! Kindergarten! Now!
EDIT: Oh, guess she's not American. Not knowing about the Civil War is forgivable in that case.
I have an understanding about some kind of war between the north and the south and whatever and that it had to do with black people but what in the world was it really about?
Quite possibly the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever seen posted on T4C, even considering the fact that she is an Aussie. In my classroom, in Geography, I teach the basic history of all the major nations. They learn about the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution and Counter Revolution, the history of the Chinese dynasties, the colonization and development of Australia, the Crusades, the Hundred Years War, and a lot more. And that's just in the bloody seventh grade! (What the hell, I have them for 45 minutes a day for an entire school year. Am I just gonna teach them about mountains and exports? YAWN)
This quote needs to be saved and endlessly repeated every time someone advocates home-schooling to get away from the "evil influences" of the school system.
Nah the Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about State's Rights. Of course the first state's right was the right to have slaves. But then the second state right was the right to ...track slaves across borders into non-slave states to recover property(slaves). And course the third states right was the right to sell your slaves to other slaveholders. Yep, not really about slavery at all.PS Randy's case about taxes and tariffs causing the war would have been reasonable... had the war been fought in 1832.
You know, I know this one's far into the fundy swamp, but is there any way to find her address and anonymously ship her a copy of "Don't Know Much About History" or "People's History of the United States"? She could really use it.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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