[A student sued the Palm Beach County School Board because he was berated in class when he refused to stand for the pledge.]
Scolded in front of his classmates??? Heaven forbid! If I had been one of his classmates, I would have made him see some stars he would respect. If I were his parents, he wouldn’t want to sit down after I showed him after the kind of red stripes I showed him. Dissent is one thing, disrespect for the very freedom that gives you that right is another. Just because you have the right to do something doesn’t mean it is the right thing to do.
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>>Dissent is one thing, disrespect for the very freedom that gives you that right is another.<<
Ah, so the Pledge is my very freedom. It's good to know there are enforcers willing to kick the crap out of people if they're anti-freedom enough to not enjoy their pressured loyalty oaths.
I mean, if people were to value principles over countries, they might get the idea to tell the *country* to change its ways to match those principles! No no no. You've got to support your country, right or wrong. In the gulag or out.
My history teacher spent part of his graduate school career in Germany. He said that the other students were suprised to hear about the pledge of allegiance, because it reminded them of when they were in grade school and they had to recite something comperable that was created by the Nazi party.
Just some food for thought.
I have a song for Jay. Jay, if you'll go to this URL, you can sing along.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/horstwessel.html
Horst Wessel Lied
Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit
Die Strasse frei den braunen Batallionen
Die Strasse frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann
Es schau'n auf's Hackenkreuz voll Hoffung schon Millionen
Der Tag fur Freiheit und fur Brot bricht an
Zum letzen Mal wird nun Appell geblasen
Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit
Bald flattern Hitler-fahnen Uber allen Strassen
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur mehr kurze Zeit
Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit
Translation
Flag high, ranks closed,
The S.A. marches with silent solid steps.
Comrades shot by the red front and reaction
march in spirit with us in our ranks.
The street free for the brown battalions,
The street free for the Storm Troopers.
Millions, full of hope, look up at the swastika;
The day breaks for freedom and for bread.
For the last time the call will now be blown;
For the struggle now we all stand ready.
Soon will fly Hitler-flags over every street;
Slavery will last only a short time longer.
Flag high, ranks closed,
The S.A. marches with silent solid steps.
Comrades shot by the red front and reaction
march in spirit with us in our ranks.
I observed some Chapter 1 high school classes a couple years ago, and they played the Pledge on video and didn't require anyone to pay attention. Video sponsored by the army, btw. I mean, if you're going to indoctrinate, then don't take half-measures. Either make the kids shut up and watch (they didn't even have to recite it, it was all done for them!), or don't do it at all.!
Yes...not standing up for the pledge is a threat to our freedoms. Please, mercilessly beat everyone who fails to jump into the required position at the very mention of our flag, and do your patriotic duty of expressing your contempt for someone failing to show as much jingoism as you find to be the ideal.
It is zealous overpatriotic douchebags like you that make it so that one would not feel as compelled to pledge your mindless to this country as you so fervently do...if you love this country so much, there is obviously something wrong with it.
I was looking for ancestors in Rhode Island and I found a Pledge of
Allegiance to the RI state flag. Who knew there was a pledge to any state
flag, although nobody would be surprised if it happened in Texas. "Under
God" does not appear here. If word of this gets out, some in Quahog might
want to have it put in, as fundies migh find it upsetting....
I pledge allegiance to our State Flag, and to the Republic of which Rhode
Island forms a part; one Union inseparable, with honor and reverence for
both State and Nation.
If you don't support and defend tbe constitution of the United States, you are seditios, and possibly a traitor.
At the very least, you are a domestic enemy.
After so much German, I'll cite another famous German:
"We must not wait until the fight of freedom becomes treason to the country"
Jay somehow fails to understand that...
Not standing isn't disrespectable. Whistling 'Rule Britannia' or humming 'Enter Sandman' with full air guitar performance is. Opting out is his right as an American. IT'S NOT A FUCKING LAW!
Besides, in this classroom, how many kids are taught that you stand for the pledge then agree with daddys plans and wishes that the White House gets overthrown and they put King Cruz of legendary Calgary on the throne?
“Scolded in front of his classmates??? Heaven forbid!”
Oh, let go of the pearls.
“If I had been one of his classmates, I would have made him see some stars he would respect”
And i’d have done my best to get you arrested for assault, fuckwit.
“If I were his parents, he wouldn’t want to sit down after I showed him after the kind of red stripes I showed him.”
The Supreme Court has ruled that the pledge is not mandatory, fascist.
Think on it, what good is a promsie you’re FORCED to make?
“Dissent is one thing, disrespect for the very freedom that gives you that right is another.”
How’s that work? If i don’t respect the pledge, why would i have to state it? What good does it do?
"Just because you have the right to do something doesn’t mean it is the right thing to do.”
So you admit he had a right to do it?
And you’d still beat him for expressing his rights?
Did anyone ever explain what a ‘right’ actually IS to you?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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