SHAME ON YOU SISSY MEN (1 Corinthians 11:14)
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? - 1 Corinthians 11:14
Do I need to say any more? One thing I would like to say is that Jesus did not have long hair at all! AMEN! AMEN!
The great Apostle Paul would have never said it was a shame if the Lord that he loved had long hair. You say, "Brother Johnny, I saw a picture of Jesus, and I want to be like Jesus." Well, dummy, if you want to be like Jesus, sell your car, walk everywhere, or perhaps ride a jackass. Like Paul, I say, if you like long hair, then "SHAME ON YOU!!"
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This is really to easy.
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? - 1 Corinthians 11:14"
You mean like every drawing of Jesus I've ever seen?
"One thing I' would like to say is that Jesus did not have long hair at all! AMEN! AMEN!"
Really, does it say he had short hair in your bible?
Ever hear of a certain Biblical character named Samson?
Also, Paul was a Gnostic and knew full well that the Jesus story was never meant to be taken literally. Deal with it.
Social stereotypes, they make you look bad(by the way, not only Jesus had long hair, his cousin John the Baptist too and the pharisees, looking at the orthodox Jews, too)
@Caustic Gnostic - From what I've read, Talmudic scholars don't believe that Paul was a Pharisee, either. His writings show mainly that he was trying to pass himself off as an ex-Pharisee but the texts contain no evidence that he actually had the training normally associated with that sect.
If he was a henchman for the High Priest, he was a Sadducee.
Actually, there's a good case for Paul's being a Gnostic based on what he wrote in the 7 letters attributed to him that he actually wrote (in particular, not the 3 Pastoral letters). To give but one example, he claims that God revealed his son "in him", rather than "to him" (Galatians). Much of what Paul wrote was later distorted through bad translation.
Read a few history books on dress style and grooming customs. Ninety percent of the human record men have worn long hair. Somehow I would love to see you call Alexander the Great, Harald Hardrada, Leonidas and his Spartans, Richard the Lionhearted, Hannibal, or William Wallace, "sissy men"!PS John the Baptist(I guess your attempted namesake) definitely had LONG DIRTY HAIR. Read your freaking Bible.
he claims that God revealed his son "in him"
I've seen that interpreted as an example of the pagan beliefs that Paul would have been exposed to in Tarsus.
The whole dying and resurrected God bit is quite pagan, too, along with much of the other doctrine that Paul put forth.
Of course, that refers to women not being allowed to pray without a head covering, and their long hair being given to them by God to serve as a head covering. With no such stipulation for men, long hair isn't necessary...
Re Paul the Pharisee/Sadducee:
I admit to an extreme bias, to the point that I sincerely believe that Saul faked his conversion and blew smoke up everyone's ass. Commentaries mention that the early Christian communities frequently beat him for his trouble, which suggests that they thought he was trying to bullshit them.
Jesus' teachings pointed to humanism, which would necessarily involve the complete abandonment of the defective god of Abraham.
Paul, with his copious references to the OT (pretty much establishing the need for it as a reference), led the early Christians back around into an Abrahamic doctrine.
The second-coming shtick that Paul drummed into the doctrine, diametrically opposes what I understand to have been the Christ's promise...that 'he' would be available to all humanity through all time...as a spirit guide, if you're open to that sort of thing.
if you want to be like Jesus, sell your car, walk everywhere
Rest of the comment aside, this is a rather admirable admission. Don't see many christians calling for the giving up of material goods.
I don't know what kind of hair Jesus had or if he even existed (probably not), but I wouldn't have been surprised if he had been known to wear, long flowing tresses and Paul just said that to snark off. After all, Paul rarely passed up the chance to directly contradict much of what Jesus supposedly said and stood for and should be known as the usurper of christianity.
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
Lions are natural. Male lions have long manes. Manes are hair. Lions aren't ashamed of it.
So "No".
I admit to an extreme bias, to the point that I sincerely believe that Saul faked his conversion and blew smoke up everyone's ass.
Or he mistook some sort of psychological breaking point for a vision. Or he was just power-hungry and eventually started to believe his own myths.
Even in the pro-Pauline books of the canonical New Testament one can find evidence that the Jerusalem church run by the direct followers of Jesus thought Paul was leading people astray.
If this isn't a parody, then it's the dumbest pile of fundie I've seen in the past 5 minutes.
He actually responds to 'wanting to be like Jesus' with 'dummy.' And then goes on to imply that Paul is a more important Christian figure than Christ.
Well played, Johnny the Baptist. Well played, indeed.
Looking over the page, I have to conclude that this is either a completely insane man, or a very clever Poe.
Read the whole page, keeping the image of typical fundies in mind. He even makes fun of Baptists in several paragraphs.
Caustic Gnostic wrote:
"I admit to an extreme bias, to the point that I sincerely believe that Saul faked his conversion and blew smoke up everyone's ass. Commentaries mention that the early Christian communities frequently beat him for his trouble, which suggests that they thought he was trying to bullshit them."
I wouldn't be at all surprised.
Paul, like all church leaders, was in it for the power. I'll bet the early Christian communities beat him up not because he was a former anti-Christian, but because he wanted to take over the Christian communities and become their leader.
Like all successful powerhungry men, though, Paul was persistent, and eventually his persistence paid off. He became the head of the new "empire" of Christianity, and "grew the business" to many many corners of the known world. Eentually, he got to play the role of a televangelist who tells his viewers to send in money (c.f. 2 Corinthians 8, for example).
Wasn't Saul a bureaucrat of some kind, a magistrate's advocate?
I'm hazy with the chronology of the NT materials, but I'm willing to bet Saul, recognizing the need for primacy, cranked out his epistles like Chick tracts for maximum early exposure.
It appears that Saul was some kind of enforcer for the High Priest, who was in turn appointed by the Roman governor and charged with keeping the peace, i.e., putting down rebellion against Rome.
In other words, the whole situation was way more political than religious.
"SHAME ON YOU SISSY MEN (1 Corinthians 11:14)
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? - 1 Corinthians 11:14"
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"Do I need to say any more? One thing I would like to say is that Jesus did not have long hair at all! AMEN! AMEN!"
CITATION! CITATION!
"The great Apostle Paul would have never said it was a shame if the Lord that he loved had long hair."
Gee no hypocrisy there at all.
"You say, "Brother Johnny, I saw a picture of Jesus, and I want to be like Jesus." Well, dummy, if you want to be like Jesus, sell your car, walk everywhere, or perhaps ride a jackass. Like Paul, I say, if you like long hair, then "SHAME ON YOU!!""
Yes and I'm sure I'm actually supposed to believe you've done the same thing.
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? - 1 Corinthians 11:14
Do I need to say any more? One thing I would like to say is that Jesus did not have long hair at all! AMEN! AMEN!"
[citation needed]
So what about all those artistic visualisations of Jesus then? (even from the Holy Roman Empire era)
@MAG`Pie
"I wonder if Jesus tipped his hairdresser well"
30 pieces of silver every time he visited, I hear. Very generous guy. And like "Lucky Star"'s Konata, Jesus kept his long hair soft & manageable by using:
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'TIMOTEI. TIMOTEI. TIMOTEI!!'
Nature itself? I was not aware that the hair of men broke off on its own at a certain length. And what do women need to cover, that men don't? Women have hideous sholders and necks? We are more alike, men and women, than we are different.
Yes, but then in the same book you have a charachter named Samson, and according to the bible, he mowed down 1,000 enemies with the jawbone of a donkey, and lost all his power when he cut his hair. So maybe god doesn't mind long hair on men?
Confused?
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