Dear reader: if you feed, clothe, and house people for the glory of God (Matthew 5:16), but you do not share the gospel with them, all you have ultimately accomplished is making those same needy people warmed and filled on their way to Hell. You have merely made their bodies more comfortable. You've done nothing for their souls.
More to the point regarding my friend's assertion: of course the unregenerate person doesn't want their Christian friends to proclaim the gospel to them. Why? They hate Jesus (John 15:18). They love their sin (Job 15:16) and they hate God (Romans 1:30). Cockroaches don't run to the center of the floor and square dance when you turn on the kitchen light. They flee to the dark regions underneath the cabinets and appliances. They hate the light, and so does the unregenerate sinner (John 3:20). Their love for the darkness of their sin is so great that any holy light brought to bear in their lives is not only uncomfortable and unpleasant, it is detestable.
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Looks like somebody has not been reading his bible again.
Matthew 25:34-46
Then the King will say to those on his right, "Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me ."
Looks pretty clear to me.
"Cockroaches don't run to the center of the floor and square dance when you turn on the kitchen light."
They used to do that in my house. Unfortunately they stopped, just at the same time I changed my tablets. I wonder if there's a coincidence...
So the lesson learned here is; if someone doesn't want you to proclaim the gospel to them, don't bother talking to them or getting to know what they think and why. Just find some tangentially related Bible verses that save you the trouble of thinking by representing such people as sinful God-hating cockroaches.
I wonder why some people don't like talking about the gospel with you, Tony.
"They love their sin (Job 15:16) and they hate God (Romans 1:30). "
It sounds like infidels to me.
"Their love for the darkness of their sin is so great that any holy light brought to bear in their lives is not only uncomfortable and unpleasant, it is detestable.
I've seen many christians act like that when I proclaimed the realness of reality to them.
If I could feed, clothe and house a whole bunch of people, and do so, but you think your god is so petty, he would say, "you didn't kiss my ass, so no soup for you." Really? If there is a gob that petty and small, I really don't want to know about him.
As there is no evidence for the existence of gods or Hell, but there IS evidence of starving, homeless people, I try to take care of the evident problems first.
I don't hate Jesus, any more than I hate Harry Potter.
I think a better comparison would be people whistling off-key non songs in public.
Now add to this the fact that some of these whistlers do this just because they know it irritates people and you have little shits like Tony who's asking for a smack down since common courtesy is beyond him.
Or how about this comparison Tony? We follow you around when you're trying to eat or relax singing Jesus Loves You over and over in our best Lucy Ricardo voice until you snap, y'know, because you hate Jesus.
More to the point regarding my friend's assertion: of course the unregenerate person doesn't want their Christian friends to proclaim the gospel to them. Why?
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that you compare them to cockroaches. People tend not to want to buy what you're selling when you dehumanize them and compare them to household pests.
But then again, you can prove they need food, clothes and homes, but you can't provide an iota of evidence that there is a God or that the gospels are any more than poor fiction.
No Soup For You ! (Unless you totally want to hear tales from the bronze/iron age)
"Why? They hate Jesus (John 15:18). They love their sin (Job 15:16) and they hate God (Romans 1:30). "
Ahh, the joys of christian bible based psychology. As the bible says , not as beliefs professed.
Proof positive that as I suspected, Atheism has bitten hard because of its resistance to knobhead dribbling and is causing much lolworthy rancour on the part of gullible droolers.
Atheism! Battling mental illness and nourishing minds ever since degenerate beardies began squawking, helping make reality a true plane of existence. Also wards off god botherers, embitters people of woo and irritates con artists no end.
Not read the parable of the Good Samaritan, then? The whole point of the story was that the person who helped was a Samaritan, someone of different religious views, who didn't force his views on the person he helped.
if you feed, clothe, and house people for the glory of God...
How about just feeding, clothing, and housing people just because its a decent thing to do.
all you have ultimately accomplished is making those same needy people warmed and filled on their way to Hell.
And if they don't want to sit through a sermon they can't eat in your soup kitchen, right? Yeah I've seen that before.
@whatever
Because this "God" character is actually an alias of a demiurgic figure involved in a cosmic war with Goomy, the real god and the face of all the good in the world. By the dubz, neither is all-powerful. Everyone knows that the worst enemy of goo is clumping, or forming "gobs," hence the name Gobs.
Also for mocking purposes. But mostly the first thing.
Maybe we could make fundies care more about helping the poor if we spin it along the lines of: by elongating people's lives, we're increasing the chances that they can hear about the great Jebus!
And since you helped facilitate their conversion by preventing them from dying before they accepted the good Jebus, you get extra Jebus Brownie Points (so your crown will be totes awesomer than the plebs')!!!
Since just helping folks because it's the right thing to do actually turns them off.
But I agree, the "holy light" (the boring, violent, repulsive text of the Babble) is detestable, and if people start trying to indoctrinate me with its hideousness, I run for the hills.
Hey, as long as they're not killing/stealing/raping/kidnapping, they're not gonna go to Hell. Might as well keep 'em warm and fed rather than force religion down their throat.
Also, did you consider that maybe they're already Christian or believe in something else?
Regenerative sinners are much better than unregenerative sinners.
With regenerative sinners, you can cut off one of their legs and it'll just grow back.
Reminds me work. The most uncompetent people are always the ones unable to make a decision without checking the little user's manual. The really dangerous people to productivity are those who don't understand the rule, yet try to follow the rule.
For those who know desing patterns in computer programming, you've already met bad programmers who apply design patterns blindly, without taking the time to understand the situation before choosing the right way to do things.
Those fundies are the same - with thought, philosophy & morals. They are unable(or unwilling) to understand what is life, what is morals, what is logic, and always come back to their little nook of everything, by lack of ability to make their own choice, or lack of will.
(I'm aggressive, this morning)
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