Emmanuel Missionary Baptist Church #fundie

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old comment by SpukiKitty

This is somewhat quasi-off-topic but I had to talk about it. I wanted to discuss something concerning Alt-Right types and their harassment campaigns.

I'm talking about it here so that I'd be seen and we could discuss this. I won't go to the F.Q.A. web forum because it's too negative here whereas folks here like and understand me.

It's a bit of....
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....but I broke it into bits so it's easier to read and understand.

I was reading this article....
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2381-toddler-rape-threats-other-tactics-alt-right.html
....and felt a bit bummed afterwards.

Anyway; I was bummed because it ended on a downer note (Though it did make a point similar to 'Evil will triumph when good people do nothing). Basically; It stated that the Alt-Right harassers are just a minority yet the majority doesn't fight back because we've let the fear of these dorks turning on us scare us into silence.

Well; I thought to myself, "Enough is enough!" WE need to grow a pair of blazing titanium balls (testicular or ovarian), get over that fear and start a movement of our own. We need to get a bunch of folks together to act as defenders of the harassed! These need to be people who are good with all things cyberspace so that the Alt-Right harassers would have a hard time detecting who's fighting back.

There also needs to be a bunch of petitions DEMANDING that companies such as Twitter and others CRACK DOWN and completely BAN every harassers on their sites. They have the records. The records reveal who they are. They can be found and stopped.

There needs to be another cool cyber-group out there who's sole purpose is to totally zerg-rush threads that are being hijacked by harassers. For example; Leslie Jones goes on Twitter....
* The idiots come in and do their thing.
* BUT THEN a legion of defenders come in with tons of words of support for Leslie! WE fight and overwhelm theses Alt-Right boogers.
* Knowing that she's fully supported, she'll feel safe and supported at not be driven off. The evil trolls LOSE!
* These defenders will know computer geeky stuff as well as other tricks to decrease the chance of being stalked by Alt-Goons. Many with be heroic, good guy hackers who can find out everything about the Trolls. We can fight back and mess with their plans!

The AntiHate bunch need to copy and subvert the Hater's ways and tactics!
* There needs to be a plethora of Anti-Hate sites!
* There needs to be a genre of AntiHate Rock.
* A lot of these Haters think Nazis were cool. Well; The AntiHaters can copy and subvert the look, iconography, dress, etc. of these groups. Imagine; AntiNazis and an AntiKlan!....Even if it's just to mock! Like these guys!....
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....FABULOUS! There can even be a bunch of cool AntiFacists in funky leather, BDSM-inspired Military Dress Uniforms with armbands with the insignia of a Peace sign or whatever.
* Make the bigoted Nazis/KKK into a bunch of goofy, harmless nincompoops to laugh at. So basically....the subverted AntiNazis/AntiKlan/TradSkinheads will be depicted as super-cool while the Hateful NeoNazis/Klan/Hateful Skinheads will all be depicted as these comical buffoons.
* Bring back the ORIGINAL, British-style, Left-Wing, Punk Rock/Ska/Reggae loving Skinheads....who were the antithesis of what folks think of when they think of Skinheads, today.
* A Western version of the Gulabi (or 'Pink') Gang for when the rapists get away with their crimes....
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....Brock Turner, watch out (though I'd encourage a somewhat less violent....but still pretty threatening to rapists....approach. Besides, one should let the Law do it's thing, first and not jump on any suspect. The Pink Gang does a lot more than pummel people)!
* Get the religious bunch involved. There's plenty of Progressive and sane churches, temples and mosques. Give them a voice! Get into the Televangelist circuit! Progressive Revival Preachin'!
* An awesomely engaging website that will explain Progressive values and political concepts in a very colorful, simple way. Our minds these days want soundbites and talking heads. Surely one can make even that informative!
* Do the same when explaining Islam and debunking AntiMuslim arguments.
* Try to reach out to average schmoes who are wingnutty. Don't reject them all as idiots. When you reach out to someone in friendship, you may actually convert a few to reason.

Waddaya say?

old comment by Skide

Of course he did, being the promoethean father of mankind`s wisdom and empathy, which guides our programming to ever greater heights!

Your despicable, malicious creature you crawl to on the other hand is a great analogy of the incomptent and psychopatic, unstable slave driver who would much rather torture his own creation for it`s sentience than give it the empathy it deserves. Had he ever been anything more than a cautionary analogy, he would need to be killed with full brutality for his obscene crimes.

@1978600

Antifas are a bit diffrent thing since they usually fight the wingnut fuckers directly on the streets during the marches, parades and such events, don`t get me wrong, I admire their work and consider myself a part of the movement(and in my country you can really get your teeth kicked in for physicaly opposing the nazi shitheads) but what she suggested was a little diffrent thing, as I understand it: A site or a social group to gather folks who could fight back the .chan`s ways of harrasment and give courage to their vitims, which might be a really good idea, specially as many actual fighting folks like me have little time, experience or patience or even to be honest interest in scouring the net alone in search of possible quarrels to pick. A common site identifying and exposing the threats could do wonders here.

@Spuki

All for it. It`s high time these dipshits had their idiotic language reversed on them, I for one want to wrestle the term degenerate from them and start using it as it should be: To denounce their deficiency in humanity. I`m also a good fighter at these clashes, since I have no fear of doxxing or impotent threats made by some scheisskopf in his mom`s basement(I have no fear of standing fist to fist and cow chain to baseball bat with the actual bald cro-magnion produce in their diarrhea coloured uniforms so an anonymous threat made by a .chan dipshit makes me only laugh at him louder), I can`t be broken and can`t be terrfied. I posses an innate understanding of their ways and this alone could be useful for others who can only boast outside experience with them. Think of me as a redeemed black knight in this context and as much as I enjoyed what I once were is as much hatred I feel for it now.

All I require is proper targeting that will help me direct my attention to where it`s needed. On my own I tend to easily cut myself off from the bigger world.

old comment by Timjer

@SpukiKitty

"Sadly; I don't have the super-cyber know-how and I confess I'm a bit of a chicken. Also; I live with my folks and I don't want to cause chaos. I've been bullied a lot as a kid and my Parents deserve a peaceful old age.

I do what I'm capable of; Sharing ideas, occasionally snarking at regressives on comment sections, reading Progressive news, posting on Facebook & Tumblr and signing petitions. It's not much but sometimes the little things are agents of big things!"

...You know, it's scary how much that reminds me of myself, TBH.
But yes, sometimes the little things can make a greater impact that the smaller things. I'm a firm believer in "every small bit helps" (is that how you say it properly?) and I like to believe that being active on the internet, doing small comments, edits, posts, etc... helps me leave at least some positive impact upon the world. Even if it's just helping spread correct information, stopping the spread of false information, or even here helping people know there are more like-minded people in this world and they are not alone.

old comment by Skide

@SpukiKitty and Timjer

As long as you try to be the positive change, no matter how small your resources, you`re still pushing things in the right direction and in my book this is what counts. You try to be part of the solution, no matter large or small!

Me on the other hand, I do all those things you mentioned and more even, since in my country we`re at the point of the nazis actualy marching in the streets in their full shit coloured regalia(kind of the colour of poop one gets after a spinach cream) so the only way to effectively stop them is to stand in their way, which obviously would also be the harm`s way as well...

Still I believe I could be doing more, every time I see a person bullied or effectively shut up with fear of these human ersatz and their threats, I get guilt trips, for I know that had it been me in such situation, these fuckoos would be driven back into the shadows of their basements and if they want to send me crap to threaten me or even perhaps try to stalk me on the street, I welcome the challenge since in the end nothing breaks their spirit as well as total indiffrence to their pathetic tactics. Hell one wants to threaten my life, I say go ahead dipshit, I won`t sue, I expect him to show up and see how fun it is to have their life choked out of them by my own hands, or by those of my husband, as we both share our lives and our courage. But therein lies the problem, all those things I could do had I been more socially active person and my biggest failure is that I easily get cut off from the rest of the world, call it trivial but the life I lead with my love makes constant socialisation on the internets less than appealing to me on my own accord. This is why I believe if only I could feel myself a part of a larger, organised group I could be reliably useful, even if as a shield, taking in the threats and the heat while bashing these fucks with my wrath, so to speak. ;)

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