Can someone tell me why a majority of the pro-life movement views neo-Nazi's and White Nationalists incapable of actually being truly pro-life? I have been banned from prolife because of my affilliations with non-violent neo-nazi and White Nationalist groups. [...]
I think the prolife [livejournal] community completely forgot that A. the KKK organization is very pro-life, B. Neo-Nazi's in general are pro-life, C. that Hitler himself was pro-life, and D. the a majority of White Nationalists are pro-life. I bet that there are many neo-Nazi's or White Nationalists a part of their so called "all human loving" community but they aren't open about it because of this, the judgemental asswipes that fill the earth. The prolife community on LJ is so friggin hypocritcal now it is amazing. They are for human life, but will willingly terrorize a person for not believing or agreeing with every little thing they do. Yeah, prolife is not pro-life, they are only pro-life for those who want to destroy individual culture, heritage, and pride.
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That's quite an achievement, being a non-violent nazi, seeing as how the whole doctrine centres on militaristic expansionism, dominance and suppression of hate groups.
You know, I'm sure your arguments sound great to you, but I'm just amazed at the amount of ammo you're giving us pro-choicers.
Hitler was pro-life? Ironic, and hilarious. Though in a sick way.
What's amazing here, these people honestly believe so long as they're pro-white-life, they're truely pro-life.
Oh, and neo-nazis, are a bunch of losers who adopted a failed ideology because it made then feel powerful and in control.
I know this as a german who shares a birthday with Hitler. I've spent more time on the subject than I care to mention. One useful bit, if you ever find a neo-nazi bbq, point out Hitler was a vegitarian(assuming you have a car nearby).
You forget that being pro-life when defending a profitable fetus but thinking that once they grow up, and just for the mere "crime" of existing, you can get rid of them, doesn´t make sense to what they defend. They just don´t want to give the wrong idea that they embrace ideas such as racial superiority. And let me tell you that they are prolife only if the future human beings are white(and just because they think that abortion is majoritary among whites)
Apart from the unusual factoid of Hitler being a pro-lifer, this girl actually makes sense. Not that I support her views on superiority, but I think she has the right to be a member of pro life community if she supports their cause.
Even if Bush himself joins the pro-choice movement, it would be unfair to reject him just because he's a dick.
They are for human life, but will willingly terrorize a person for not believing or agreeing with every little thing they do.
Another highly polished mirror candidate.
Speaking as a pro-choicer, isabella, I think you should spread this all over the internet. Tell everyone how the KKK, neo-Nazis, White Nationalists and Hitler are or were pro-life.
Please, please do this.
Neo-Nazi's in general are pro-life
From what I've experienced of the Neo-Nazi mentality (which is thankfully not much), they are only pro-life if the baby is pure white. The community will not hesitate to advise the abortion of a mulatto child, however.
I remember some years ago, when I was preparing my sis holy communion that the altar boy came with a flier of this type of pro-life neo nazis groups. The priest, rather angry, asked the kid to get rid of it and warn the guys who left it on the entrance not to give it out any longer. Then he explained to me that he did so because "if we allow them to do so, it will seem that we embrace their causes and it´s not true". He added with sarcasm "do you think that Hitler was pro-life?, do you think that this guys were very pro-life when they hit a six months old pregnant Dominican(black)woman?". I later found out that this woman, needless to say, lost her kid and it was the priest himself who took her to hospital.
In other words, he's saying "how can they be real pro-lifers if they're not ultra-right wing lunatic neo-Nazis who hate Jews and blacks like I do"?
They are for human life, but will willingly terrorize a person for not believing or agreeing with every little thing they do.
Has he been getting letter-bombs? Have they put a horse's head in his bed? I thought all they did was ban him from a forum. He must have a strange definition of "terrorize". For a would-be bad-ass storm trooper, he sounds like bit of a cry-baby.
Wait, wait wait, i see what this guy is saying, and i understand why he's pissed. He dosn't seem to get the fact that associaiton with societies that are deemed militant discredits the relativly mainstream part of the pro-life movement.
A) KKK would really not care what happens to black, Jew, Catholic, or any other people they disaprove of babies. B) Are Neo-Nazi Groups pro-life about the babies of the aforementioned races/religions? C) Hitler was pro-life about the Aryan babies. He couldn't care less if Jew babies were aborted. D) White-Nationalists (as with these previously named groups) probably couldn't care if black babies got aborted.
If I am wrong, don't hesitate to calmly tell me.
Ohhh, so many things wrong about this...
First, there is no such thing as a "non violent neo Nazi." The Nazi philosophy stresses success through brutally violent means, then calls itself "non-violent" by defining "violence" as only against "humans," then redefining "human" to mean only those people they approve of.
Secondly, Hitler was hardly pro-life, orchestrating one of the worst (although not the worst) murderous rampages in the history of humanity.
Thirdly, White Nationalists are only
"pro-life" about white people. There are many WN's who actively promote the idea of forced abortions and sterilization of non-whites. They say a fetus is "human," but a black person is not "human." Hardly pro-life.
Fourthly, no community is "loving" that holds hatred as a core value.
Fifthly a WN calling other people "judgemental asswipes" is too hypocritical for words.
Sixthly, a WN criticizing others for "[terrorizing people] for not believing or agreeing with every little thing they do" actually tops the hypocracy of the previous point.
I don't even think I can properly mock this.
I can't pull a godwin to show how absurd these statements are, because she's already invoked it.
Let's see...
The black plague was pro-life.
The 2004 Tsunami was pro-life.
Umm, cancer is pro-life and uh,
Joseph Stalin was pro-life.
Whew. it wasn't easy, but there you have it.
Although, christians claim god is pro-life, and he intentionally killed millions.
I would imagine that a normal person would have mental alarm bells and sirens going off in their head by typing 'hitler himself was pro-life', but not this one!
This is failure to the nth power.
Confused?
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