Trump said at the Al Smith dinner that he'll stand with Catholics against the "anti-Catholic bias." Pence calls himself an "evangelical Catholic." I wouldn't be surprised if the Jesuits are heavily invested in the Trump-Pence campaign as they are in the Clinton-Kaine campaign (Kaine was Jesuit-educated), so that when either wins, they'll still have an ally in Washington for the Vatican. WND has been infiltrated by Jesuit writers, too. You've all been hoodwinked!
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The Catholic Church is just a Boogeyman invention of preachers to plant a bias against uniting the church in their minds, I've seen the papers in my pastor's office where he looked for ideas about what the next insane action would be.
This is one of the things that turned me away from religion.
"Bill, take your meds, please."
Why?
Doctors can be biased as much as anything else, you already don't trust Ben Carson since he doesn't agree with your prejudices, and any doctor I visit will probably disagree with me, so why would I believe him or her when they give me a pill and tell me it'll allow me to see things the way things really are?
It could just as easily blind me, all the doctor knows is that it makes the patient act more like a normal person, and we all know that sanity is abnormal in an insane world.
@Bill
you already don't trust Ben Carson since he doesn't agree with your prejudices
I would trust Carson with a scalpel if I had a brain tumour. I would not trust Carson with the keys to the White House. Trust, like most abstract concepts, is a matter of context more than anything - Carson is a reliable, informed expert on the subject of human brains, but on anything else, weeellll...
all the doctor knows is that it makes the patient act more like a normal person, and we all know that sanity is abnormal in an insane world.
Sanity is relative, but I'm pretty sure most people consider "the Catholic Church isn't real and was invented by Protestant pastors as a boogeyman" a distinctly insane sentiment.
"Sanity is relative, but I'm pretty sure most people consider "the Catholic Church isn't real and was invented by Protestant pastors as a boogeyman" a distinctly insane sentiment."
Yes, that is a normal sentiment, but it's not sane, since basically everything you have ever been told your entire life is all made up guesses at best and lies at worst, the world is so tangled up in people manipulating each other and the naïve suckers who build on top of the lies that you have to be insane to think you've been told anything that's actually happened.
@Uilleam
But it's all so obvious now! The Jews created the Protestants so they could make up a fake Catholic Church that would create the Jesuits, so they could secretly rule the world as the Illuminati!
" Assuming this is true, this convinces me I should listen to you over any other "suckers who build on top of the lies" because...? "
It doesn't, it means you should trust noone .
"Okey-doke, Billdo, we'll all start by not trusting you."
That's barely the beginnings of a start, and you know it.
>Bill the Troll:
@Billyou wouldn't be.
It's also possibly, post #1988954, that you've completely missed the point, you don't have to trust me, you just need to look at the world for yourself without the biases that have been planted in your mind by your parents, teachers, friends, and random other people since the day you were born.
If you don't start out assuming that people are usually telling the truth, then what does it look like when society keeps contradicting itself, and everything is so overcomplicated?
Can you validate math without using math?
"You are not going far enough. Why do you think that there is a world at all? We are all just figments of your imagination. Your mind is all that is. So please ignore us mere phantasms."
I don't think I've ever said anything about hallucinations, and have in fact been extremely critical about the whole concept of "seeing things," with the concept basically being a cop out to try to preserve a model of the world in the face of evidence against it.
Take that nonsense about "which line is longer," for example, why should I assume that my eyes are wrong and whatever technique they're using to measure the lines is right?
And why is the color picker gospel?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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