As Mr. Scott points out, the glorious Constitution is there to protect the rights of Christians to profess their faith. This country was founded by good Christians and the Constitution guarantees our right to express our religion. It just is completely beyond me how we have allowed Liberals to deny us this guaranteed right. Oh, they raise ridiculous arguments like other (false) religions would be "upset" if they were forced to pray alongside the righteous in schools or council meetings. Surely those others would appreciate the opportunity to be saved.
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Oh, for Christ's sake, I live on the other side of the world, and know more about your country than you do!
This country was founded by good christians!?!?! WTF...
Yes, you have the right to worship as you please. You do not have the right to force others to worship as you please.
the glorious Constitution is there to protect the rights of Christians to profess their faith. It just is completely beyond me how we have allowed Liberals to deny us this guaranteed right.
Christians haven't been denied rights. The only thing that's been denied is using public money to promote Christianity. To non-Christians, Christianity is a false religion. And they have just as much proof that they're right as Christians have (namely, none). They would not appreciate "the opportunity to be saved" any more than Billie would if the government started trying to teach his children to be Muslims, Hindus, etc.
"Oh, for Christ's sake, I live on the other side of the world, and know more about your country than you do!"
I have to be honest: this is the first quote I've ever read that's made me feel... ill. I mean, I've read posts that've offended me, but this one feels like a shrimp diner that sat out in the sun for a few hours.
Speaking as a Christian, I'm getting really tired of hearing other Christinas claim they are being persecuted because they are being prevented from persercuting others.
Thomas Jefferson wasn't even Christian, he was a deist. And he even said some bad things about Christianity, as well as saying the first amendment should act as a "wall of separation" between church and state.
As Mr. Scott points out, the glorious Constitution is there to protect the rights of Christians to profess their faith. Points for citing your source; however, you fail to note that the Constitution also protects the rights of members of all other faiths or even those who profess no faith to do so as well. This country was founded by good Christians Many of the Founding Fathers were not Christian - in fact, several had particularly unflattering things to say about Christianity. Your research on the topic is clearly lacking. and the Constitution guarantees our right to express our religion. This much is true. It also guarantees the same right to those who follow any religion, or no religion at all. It just is completely beyond me how we have allowed Liberals to deny us this guaranteed right. How is this right being denied to you? You need examples here. I suspect you are confusing "the right to practice our beliefs" and "the right to enforce our beliefs on others". The latter is not guaranteed by the Constitution - in fact, it is expressly forbidden by the Constitution. Oh, they raise ridiculous arguments like other (false) religions would be "upset" if they were forced to pray alongside the righteous in schools or council meetings. Referring to Christians as "the righteous" is a bad idea in a persuasive paper. Insulting your target audience by the implication that they are not good people is certain to prevent those people from considering your argument. Wording aside, consider the same argument applied in reverse - if you were forced to pray alongside those you consider "heathens", you would almost certainly cry foul. There is no reason your beliefs should be favored over any others. Surely those others would appreciate the opportunity to be saved. Do not presume to speak for others, especially since if they were so keen on the opportunity they probably would have taken it already.D- .
It boggles the mind how someone can write something so elitist and condescending and not recognize it. Of course, it is based on the wrong assumption that you have been commisioned by the founding fathers and christ almighty to say such nonsense. The constitution guarantees that you and everyone else who believes in an unseen deity can worship as you please, providing you don't mess with anybody else in the process. it does NOT give you the sole religious platform in America, so stop acting like you are being trampled on. You have the SAME rights as the next religion. Period. Why is that so hard to grasp? Treaty of Tripoli Bitch seconded.
Ice, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Sorry, but religious liberty is not the religion to impose your religion into others. And they are not going to appreciate the opportunity to be saved, because they are not. They are coerced to accept your point of view by force. If you´re not going to pray hail Mary with me, sorry, you´re not forcing me into your gawdy pedantic ammunitions.
@Coffee
How about a "Treaty of Tripoli, Bitch" award? Considering how often this sentiment crops up, we should have a monthly award for it.
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
"Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?"
"What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith."
Any questions?
Also, "For rebellion as is the sin of witchcraft." 1 Samuel, 15:23
Most liberals are Christians.
A religion will not be upset, stupid, but the followers of said religion might be. Just as upset as you would be if you were given the opportunity to pray to and be saved by Allah.
"This country was founded by good Christians..."
- Does that include the Founding Fathers who identified themselves as Anglicans, Unitarians, Catholics and other denominations which you lot insists aren't "really" Christian? Better consider your answer carefully, as that includes the literal majority of said Founding Fathers.
- Why don't you go to a Mormon temple and offer the folks there this "opportunity" of yours sometime? When the police arrest you for trespassing and haul you off in handcuffs you can have a grand ol' time whining about how you were "oppressed for your faith."
Your argument really nosedived when you typed (false), and then completely crashed and burned with your last sentence.
Need I repeat that America is not a Christian nation, that all religions have equal footing, and that you do not have the right to ram your particular brand of religion down anyone else's throat?
@ Sandman: Amen! I couldn't have said it better myself!
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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