Today we have women’s rights! We’ve come a long way, baby! And today, you know, [in a mocking voice] ‘Oh those horrible, horrible days when women had no rights’— Let’s bring them back! Let’s get back to those days! [Fake scream] What are you so worried about? What do you think they mean when they say ‘women’s rights’? You know what they mean? The right to divorce your husband is what they mean. You know what they mean? The right to rebel and disobey your husband. The right to divorce him. The right to go out and get a job and make your own money. The right to tell him what to do. The right to go vote for our leaders as if women should have any say in how our country is run, when the Bible says that ‘I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence’? I AM QUOTING THE BIBLE RIGHT NOW! But it’s old-fashioned.
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Well, well, and down the line, we have another Christocrank saying there aren't enough atheist women for atheist men. You'll sure fix that quick, Reverend.
I AM QUOTING THE BIBLE RIGHT NOW! But it’s old-fashioned.
Correct on both counts, which is partly why the Bible (in theory) has nothing to do with running the country. The other part, of course, is the whole First Amendment thing that you jackasses routinely ignore when it suits you.
Sorry, but the days where you could use your 2,000 year-old book of myths to enforce misogyny (not to mention slavery and witch-hunting) are long gone, and soon the days where you could use it as an excuse bash gays will also be gone.
The usual black and white thinking from people that can't conceptualise equality as an ideal. Feminists struggle for women's rights. That must mean they want to dominate men. Black people had the civil rights movement. That must mean they want to dominate white people. You can criticise the Theory of Evolution and find flaws in it. That must mean a literal interpretation of Genesis is correct.
The same simplistic, either/or, manichean thinking.
"What do you think they mean when they say women’s rights’? You know what they mean? The right to divorce your husband is what they mean. You know what they mean? The right to rebel and disobey your husband. The right to divorce him. The right to go out and get a job and make your own money. The right to tell him what to do. The right to go vote for our leaders"
Um, yes, that's some of what it means.
What exactly is wrong with that?
The right to rebel and disobey your husband.
Women aren't children.
The right to divorce him.
And this is a viable solution to being married to men who would treat them as such.
We’ve come a long way, baby!
From one of the most sexist ad campaigns ever , a good start.
Funny, the right to divorce is recognized by the Orthodox Church and has been for over a thousand years.
If women are not supposed to teach but to keep silent, when are you going to put a stop to Michelle Bachmann?
You're a pastor? You seem utterly unqualified to lead a half a glass of tepid water much less a congregation.
P.S. You're right , the Bible IS old fashioned. It's hopelessly out of date and it's best use is as a shim for broken furniture legs.
Oh yes...how DARE a woman make her own decisions and her own money!
Great Scott, it's as if she thinks that she-that she is an actual human being, that she is actually created in the image of God same as the men! The nerve of women today! They need to quit their jobs, take those shoes off, get pregnant and stay in the kitchen!
*HEAVY sarcasm*
*sarcasm off*
That was Paul's opinion, jackass! Jesus never said anything about women being little more than a piece of furniture...in fact, one of the first people to spread his gospel was Mary Magdalene...a WOMAN! I can't wait to see the look on this chauvinist pig's face when he has to answer to Sophia (God the Mother) for his blatant misogyny! Hey Steve...women rock and you KNOW it!
With what this idjit teaches, is it any wonder that quite a handful of women turn to Wicca? (Not that it's necessarily a bad thing...I'm a Christian Wiccan myself)
You're a cunt, Mr. Anderson.
I'd say more, but that's really all I've got to say about this shitstain.
I suppose I should clarify, I use "cunt" not to degrade women or whatever, but to use what my culture (American btw) considers to be the "worst" word of all.
Also, I feel like that line should have been in the third Matrix movie, it certainly couldn't have made things more ridiculous.
"I AM QUOTING THE BIBLE RIGHT NOW! But it’s old-fashioned."
Yes, but only by a few thousand years. Next you'll be telling us it's old fashioned to wear sandals and long, unkempt hair, even in the desert. And what's wrong with sporting a straggler? Surely man's natural, holy look should be left to its own devices and should be more than attractive enough to not need the attention of women?
Yes, it is old-fashioned. You're right. Glad you realize that.
Now back to the dark ages with the rest, please.
And this is why nobody should take the bible as an authority on anything.
Think about it for a second. This guy thinks that women shouldn't be allowed to get a job and make money of their own, but apparently get an allowance from their husbands. This guy thinks that women should always obey their husbands. This guy thinks that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. In short, he thinks that women should be the property of their husbands.
And conservatives wonder why the Republican party doesn't appeal to women.
"What do you think they mean when they say women’s rights’? You know what they mean? The right to divorce your husband is what they mean. You know what they mean? The right to rebel and disobey your husband. The right to divorce him. The right to go out and get a job and make your own money. The right to tell him what to do. The right to go vote for our leaders as if women should have any say in how our country is run, when the Bible says that I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence’? '
...so your last ex got the house(s), car(s), and half of your tithe income , eh Mr. Anderson? [/Agent Smith] [in a mocking voice] >:D
Actually, I mostly say "human rights", as I think men AND women should have all those rights.
Why are you so scared of independent women, dearie?
There were women preachers at the time of Jesus, stupid.
Or maybe you want to go back to the days of Torah? Shalom aleikhum.
You're speaking as if the bible were knwn to possess some inherent authority--why?
Can you provide a rational argument why women shouldn't have the legal right to divorce their spouse? Why they shouldn't have a legal right to refuse to obey their husband? Why they shouldn't be legally entitled to seek employment and receive a salary? Why they shouldn't have the legal right to vote as they choose?
If you can't--if the best argument you can offer is "That's just the way my invisible friend wants it!"--pleases stop bothering the adults...
I was going to post something incredibly witty and clever in response to this, but then I realized that it wasn't worth the effort to write a considered response to your faith-based drivel, so just do us all a favour and shut the fuck up, you fucking ingrate.
This is why atheists and humans in general don't use the Bible for their moral compass. Because bigots such as yourself use it to oppress and marginalize people you don't like. Women are not property or doormats and if she wants to do any of those things, that's her RIGHT and there's not a damn thing you or anyone else can do about it. GET OVER IT.
Hey Steve! Imma quote the Bible now too, okay?
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
Wadda ya say to that ya douchebag? You're the same guy who says the government should put homosexuals to death, right?
The legal right to divorce her husband, seek employment for which she's qualified, AND voting?!?
Good Lord, what's next? Having women own property in their own names? Or drive a car on public roads? It's madness, I tells ya!
"But it’s old-fashioned."
Were you looking for: obsolete, unnecessary, ridiculous, fictitious, misogynistic, primitive, backwards, savage, lacking in intellectual and moral content?
When you die, I hope you come back as a woman...that way you can see your ridiculous doctrine through our eyes :p
By the way, the 5th commandment is "Honor thy father and thy *mother*" (emphasis mine)...unless that doesn't apply to you (I'm being facetious in case you can't tell)
Yo, Steve!
I got something to say.....
THE GREAT HEBREW PROPHETESS, DEITY'S MOUTHPIECE, FIRST JUDGE OF ISRAEL & INCREDIBLE WARRIOR WOMAN, DEBORAH!
What would you make of her, Stevie-boy? As sexist as The Bible can be, it does have a few surprisingly woman-friendly moments & characters.
if you think any person should be without rights, you should have your rights removed yourself.
if people like him lived like they want others to be, they would cry every night in despair.
Stop being such a raging misogynist, dude, You're embarassing yourself and making everyone else irritated.
Women have rights. Deal with it.
The only relevant thing you said, Stevie, is that the Bible is old-fashioned. The rest is pure misogynistic bullshit. Have a nice empty life, devoid of women!
"What are you so worried about? What do you think they mean when they say women’s rights’? You know what they mean? The right to divorce your husband is what they mean. You know what they mean? The right to rebel and disobey your husband. The right to divorce him. The right to go out and get a job and make your own money. The right to tell him what to do. The right to go vote for our leaders as if women should have any say in how our country is run, when the Bible says that I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence’? I AM QUOTING THE BIBLE RIGHT NOW! But it’s old-fashioned."
Just two words completely annihilates your argument, Stevey-boy: Newt Gingrich.
'Old fashioned'? [in a mocking voice] Gimme some of that Old Time Hypocrisy .
Newt is precisely why you're worried... (*affects Agent Smith's mocking tone *) ...Mr. Anderson. [/"The Matrix"] >:D
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