The world's popualtion has doubled in the past 60 years, so will double again and again in quick time. Which makes a mockery of evolutionists stating that human beings have been existing for 200,000 years, more like 6,000 years to be exact.
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There have been two large population explosions in Human history. One came when civilization began as man suddenly had a more stable environment and could grow their own food. The second came after industry was formed. Neither was something that just happened over night, it took hundreds and even thousands of years, but the first one eventually got into a nice stable rhythm until a couple hundred years ago. Ours meanwhile, already has begun to do that to some extent. Children cost a lot of money in industrialized nations and so the population isn't expanding at large rates from births as there's a downside to having too many children. The problem comes from third world countries where they experience some of the benefits from other countries being industrialized, but at the same time it's a resource to have lots of children as they can be used as sources of labor for you. Once we get that aspect in control the effects of the last population explosion will begin to stabilize until we find another way to supply mass amounts of resources with greater ease.
If population doubles every 60 yrs as claimed by our fundie and assuming a population of 6 billion in 2000 C.E. then our fundie is claming in 1400 C.E. the Earth's population was 5.85 million and 5,712 in 800 C.E.
Population increases geometrically, dumbass. Which means the later the stage, the larger the increase. cause of the geometric progression of human population is human beings themselves. By developing better and better medical science, we ensure that the death rate remains considerably lower than the birth rate. Such was not always the case. Black Death anyone?
And Huffers, while I see your math there, and it's not unreasonbale as far as pure statistics go, have you factored in death rates, war casualties, epidemics, plagues, etc? It seems at first glance that your progression of numbers implies that no one ever dies. How did you arrive at those numbers? It seems at first that it's a simple doubling every 60 years, but I see that occasionally it's doubled +1. Why is that?
And is this a rebuttal of the post, since your figures seem to show that a purely geometric progression would result in a 6 billion population withing 1850 years or so, not the 6000 claimed by fundie Christians?
Sigh. I don't think I'm completely awake yet.
Aside from the obvious fact that an exponential doesn't fit the data anyway (Nice one, Huffers), can you say "environmental factors", Mr Persecuted?
As shown by huffers, and under 'persecuteds' logic, christianity is wrong and the world is under 2000 years old, it was created after Jesus. Therefore Jesus was never born.
In addition to the fine points already mentioned (plague, war, etc.,) you also have to take into consideration that the infant mortality rate was much greater in years past than it has for the last century or so. Not only that, but the rate of women dying in childbirth was much greater, also. Plus the fact that, regardless of what the Wholly Babble claims about the many years some people lived to, the life expectancy was much lower for all people. What this boiled down to is that most of the babies born for hundreds of thousands of years replaced to a certain extent the older people that died instead of adding to the population as it has for the past couple of hundred years.
Remember, the 'human beings' of 200,000 years ago weren't exactly like the humans today, they are classified as different species'.
But there is how much the environment can supply which is the limit...by modifing our environment (farming, housing, heating, industry, modern medicine) we increase the limit...
First of all, your username is bullshit...
Secondly, do you have no grasp of population dynamics? You know, birth rates, death rates, and major events like, oh, I dunno, the bubonic plague playing a major role in what the population is at any given moment? Also, if you're suggesting that we came from two people...there's the whole issue of genetic diversity and shit...
The world's popualtion has doubled in the past 60 years, so will double again and again in quick time. Which makes a mockery of evolutionists stating that human beings have been existing for 200,000 years, more like 6,000 years to be exact.
Assuming that earth was "created" 6000 years ago, with exactly 2 humans at the start, and world population would double every 60 years, population would be now:
2 * 2^100 people. Thats roughly 2.5 * 10^30 people, or 2.5 nonillion people (in the US number system), or 2.5 quintillion people (in the European number system).
Or in other words: "persecuted U1736044", please first learn about basic demographics, THEN write a post. Not the other way round.
let's say that the world did start 6000 years ago and the population does double every 60 years. since this went on undisturbed since 2000 B.C. (after the flood, 8 people) we can state that today's population would be
then we would be having a global population of about 9.37 * 10^20
also, you're full of crap.
FAIL
study crop production, caarrying capacity, infant mortality rates, life expectancy to start then go fix your population growth curve.
@sandman not only medical, but also agricultural. Without our recent methods in yielding sufficient foodstuffs, allowing for the largest expanses in our numbers as ever recorded, our current population levels would be impossible. Famine remains a critical limiting factor for ours and any other populaion, yet like the air we breathe, these fundies just take it in without any thought as to how tenuous and limited it is. But what can you expect from people who think that an all powerful magic man will just deliver it on an infinite platter?
Huffers just pointed out the weakness of this numbers argument used by many creationists.
I've seen it more revised (read: tweeked) so it goes back 4400 years to seven people yet even that fails with little historical events like the Roman Empire and Chinese dynasties.
Then there's their ridiculous moon caculations based on the moons current departure which they claim is impossible since it must always be moving away then and would be too close say 2 million years ago, another total math fail even if that were a constant by the way.
This is pseudo science shit they feed the flock with, people like Hovind still use these debunked arguments despite it being shown to completely fail as @Huffers demonstrated.
And oddly enough this post was followed today by this nonsense:
"think about it... if the earth was an inch closer to the sun, we would burn
The flock eats this crap up, their last straws are growing thin.
Confused?
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