the real sad thing about all of this is that people don’t know that Catholicism started Islam! the roman Catholics were in control of that region before Islam was there and they started Islam with the intent to bring Ilsam into a war against jews.
[... :blink: I don't know where you got that from, Replica...:P
Islam all started with Muhammad. Muhammad preached his new religion throughout Mecca with his friends and family as the first converts. He actually waited .......]
dyne, there is an official version to the events surrounding. and then there is the truth.
just like with 9/11.
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One of the last phrases of the comic:
If you choose Jesus, you will reign with him in heaven.
Therefore Heaven is a democracy, thus god hs no real power over the events that happen everywhere. Being Christian is like being registered for voting.
I was about to say Chick.
The Catholics also invented communism by the way. Allot of people don't know that!
ALSO, I am SICK to death of these poor associations. If your going to end the sentence with JUST LIKE HITLER or JUST LIKE 9/11, have a reason for it. When there is no real association, its just blatant name dropping and sensationalization.
Islam arose in the 7th century AD. There was NO catholic church before AD 1000, idiot. Makes as much sense as saying Christianity invented hinduism, a relgion invented thousands of years before. The only organized church before then was the Orthodox, from which the catholic church broke off. Also, if your'e referring to the Byzantine Empire (assuming you know what it is) where the orthodox church had influence, its territorial boundries were not even close to the parts of Arabia where the Muslim religion was born.
Alejandro already summed up what I would have pointed out (and did it much better than I would have). Well done! And thanks to mad dog for the historical particulars on the issue.
I wish there were a way to extend the rating system for special occasions. Some of these posts (such as this one), on a scale of 1 to 5, really need to be rated at least a 7!
~David D.G.
Whoa! Back up the bus, replica.
Catholics started Islam?
Of course, rep. doesn't cite any source material on this. Chick tract, but then , what's Chick's source?
I wonder what rep. thinks the real version of the 9/11 attacks is.
Interesting screen name - replica. Replica of what?
Mad dog, what happened in ~1000 AD that you are calling the start of the Catholic church? Was it the Great Schism in 1054? Because that was more of a (rather violent) parting of ways than the creation of a new church. Papal history in Rome goes back to Peter in ~30AD. Catholic doctrine developed side-by side with Orthodox Christianity since the start of Christianity itself. There was certainly what most people consider to be the "Catholic Church" when Islam was founded.
Nevertheless, Replica's post is a great deal more ludicrous than your claim. I always find it funny when people read Chick tracts instead of history books.
Okay, it was 1054. So sue me. Being off by 54 years is so 'ludicrous'. Go to an orthodox church website, and they will claim the catholic church broke off from them. Go to a catholic website, and they will claim that the orthodox church broke off from them. Could you be a little less insulting when you nitpick someone else's comments?
To borrow terminology, the religions had a common ancestor. It is not unreasonable to call the proto-Catholic/Orthodox church of the first millennium "Catholic", especially since the historical geographical and 'holy' areas of influence seem to be more concordant with modern Catholicism than Orthodoxy.
I admit I might be a bit surprised to see somebody claiming that the Orthodox Church did it before the Schism, because I am immersed in the cultural assumption that the Catholics were "first" and the Orthodox were the branch, but ultimately I don't have any good reason to consider that to be wrong either.
I would tend to say that claiming a Protestant denomination were responsible would be a bit off, since they specifically claim to be a breakaway and disassociate themselves with the Catholic church (their terminology for the proto-Catholic/Orthodox church), save perhaps for its earliest incarnation.
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if an alien civilization found the ruins of our long - dead culture in the far future, but the only written records they retrieved were Chick Tracts.
The usual answer I come up with is a complete glassing of the planet and all of the others in the neighboring solar systems to make sure there were no survivors.
So Yusuf quotes Genesis 1:26 and Adil asks him, "Yusuf, that couldn't be Allah saying this, is it?"
Yusuf responds,"No, Adil, it isn't Allah!"
Eh? Presumably, they were speaking to each other in Arabic, and doesn't "Allah" mean "God" for both Muslims and Christians who speak Arabic?
So God died for their sins but He didn't die for their sins?
What I mean is that CATHOLICISM DIDN´T INITIATE IT, because that concept, as opposed to Protestantism(Christianity in their slang)or Orthodoxism, to begin with. Second, because it simply IT´S NOT TRUE. Using the logics of this moron, we can conclude that Catholics invented anything, including atomic bombs.
My God, do people actually comment on posts from random sites? Funny. At least everyone was on my side. While I disagree with Replica whole heartily, I must ask, does it really matter? Do you even know what site our comment was on? Then again, this IS “fundies say the darndest things” website. I remember people here were actually buying into the 9/11 conspiracy when it came up on VoA.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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