A Catholic church in Malaysia which prays to Allah has prompted a court case over who can use the word.
Muslim leaders say Islam should be the only faith to use it, saying its use in other faiths could lead to confusion and conversions.
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"A Catholic church in Malaysia which prays to Allah has prompted a court case over who can use the word."
Oh, good god. I can see it now, some jackass is going to try to trademark "God" or "Allah" to keep the heathens from using it.
"Muslim leaders say Islam should be the only faith to use it, saying its use in other faiths could lead to confusion and conversions."
Anyone that easily confused is certain to be a high priced commodity in the religion business, no doubt.
Yes, people are so confused that they convert on the spot when someone says Allah. Never mind all the talk about Jesus. Nope! People there are just so gullible that they do that. I think this is more a case of trying to discriminate against a minority religion. Hey look! discrimination against christians! RR eat your heart out. Oh wait those are catholics, never mind.
Wait, why would a church in Malaysia, in a country where the official language is Malay and where God in Malay translates as Tuhan, use Allah, the Arabic word, as their translation of God? Who knows, maybe it is a sneaky way to admit that both religions worship the same God. In my opinion its a way to "cash in" on the major religion, by portraying yourself as the same. Maybe thats where the confusion might stem from.
Anyway, dont think this is fundie so mehed....
"Dear idiots, Allah means God, Chrisitians in the middle east used it long before Islam was founded. "
I don't think that's true. I think Christians started using that word under influence of their Arab / Muslim overlords. In many languages (inclusing Indonesian which is very close to standard Malay) 'Allah' is the defacto word for 'God' (although Tuhan is also used).
Regardsless, Muslims always make the claim that Allah is the same as the Christian God and that their words means the exact same. It's also their way of reassuring Christians that switching to Islam isn't really a switch. More of an 'upgrade'.
The hypocricy of these Malays is thick.
"You can't use that word. We own it!"
Seeing as how Allah just means "God" anyway, which is itself confusing because it is just a proper noun version of the generic word "god" used to describe the divine superbeings of almost every religion...I'm going to have to suggest that if you are going to complain to anyone, complain to the people who decided to have a nameless god. (Or, rather, an effectively nameless god, because you aren't supposed to call him "Yahweh", lest you...I dunno, awaken him from his thousand year slumber of something).
AuraTwilight wrote:
"You can't claim ownership of a word, retard."
Well, some words, you can. The Proctor & Gamble Corporation claims ownership of the word "Kleenex", for example. It's called a Trade Mark. However, in most countries, you cannot hold a Trade Mark on the household word for something -- e.g. General Foods can trademark "Jell-O", but they can't trademark "gelatin".
I think the ancient Arabic word for "God" qualifies as a household word.
You pray to the same god as christians and jews, you even have Jesus as one of your prophets, as well as the important prophets of Judaism.
So it should be obvious to you, that Allah, YHWH and God are interchangeable
I'd actually buy a Bible or any other holy book writing it as God(TM), Allah(TM) or YHWH(TM), just for shits and giggles. Hey, if I'm not the only one, that could help raise money -- maybe even cover the costs of trademarking your stupidity.
'A Catholic church in Malaysia which prays to Allah'
On Fox friday, right after 'friends'
Better watch it now it's already canceled.
Funny, but sadly not fundie enough to be WTF? worthy. I gave it a meh.
Still laughing about it, though.
And in the Maltese language the word for God is Alla.
And, btw, Arabic was widely spoken in lower Palaestina by peoples like the Nabataeans long before Islam came along with al-Lah, as an earlier poster correctly analysed the term.
The term El/Elohim in Hebrew (a cousin language of Arabic) is closely related.
So if if the term is patented, who will pick up the shekels? And will they share with the Baptists?
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Oh my. I needed this. It's been a rough morning.
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