I just spoke with somebody the other day who touched a dead body when he was a child, and at that moment something very evil and scary entered him, and he was never the same since. I believe it was that night when he was sleeping, he awoke to see red velvet walls around him, as if he was inside a casket. Today I just spoke with another person who experienced something similar after touching a dead body... she started having horrible nightmares about the person who had died.
Grave yards and funeral homes are often crawling with demons. I know of somebody who lived in funeral home and could testify to the haunting they experienced there... doors slamming at night, strange noises, etc. How does this happen? When a person dies, the demons that have been inhabiting them are left hanging onto the body, and can remain around that body for years before they find a new home.
I remember one person telling how they had nothing but problems in their new home... it was as if the place was cursed! Come to find out, their property was an old Indian graveyard and the land was defiled and haunted by demons.
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And thus we see proof that, for all of its efforts at consoling the bereaved (which, in my mind, is one of the primary purposes of them), religions fail miserably at helping us to gain an understanding or acceptance of the concept, process, and reality of death.
I used to own and drive a hearse, just for fun. One pinhead like Anonymous here was terrified becuase he was sure it was full 'o spooks. I asked him: Even provisionally granting the existence of spirits, where would they be most likely to hang out - at a place important in life (like home), at the place of death, where their bodies had been buried, or in a car they'd spent maybe 20 minutes in after they were already dead?
His answer: "Duuurrrrhhh."
Same argument applies to funeral homes.
"I just spoke with somebody the other day who touched a dead body when he was a child, and at that moment something very evil and scary entered him, and he was never the same since."
Oh, grow up. There is nothing more sinister, scary, evil, dangerous or mystical about a dead human body than there is of a rump roast at your supermarket.
"Grave yards and funeral homes are often crawling with demons."
No, it's Halloween stories and your itty-bitty mind that are "crawling with demons."
"I remember one person telling how they had nothing but problems in their new home... it was as if the place was cursed! Come to find out, their property was an old Indian graveyard and the land was defiled and haunted by demons."
Yeah, the last missing touch was the "old Indian graveyard" twist. Long dead native-Americans are not sinister or dangerous either. Grow a spine, catch a clue and join us adults in the 21st century.
I know someone who lived in a house that had formerly been a funeral home and the only thing that happened was they would smell embalming fluid when it rained.
Why would you think there would be spirits in a funeral home or graveyard? PEOPLE DON'T DIE THERE, STUPID. People die in hospitals and nursing homes and ambulances but I never hear you yammering on about them.
It couldn't possibly be a normal psychological reaction to such an experience?
As for strange noises, when I have to stay overnight to sit someone's animals I hear a LOT of strange and at times unsettling noises. Guess what? I'd hear those noises at home too, if I weren't comfortable in the house and the neighborhood through long familiarity. I'm sure expecting to hear and experience things is somewhat similar, with the brain looking specifically for certain signals that can be construed as 'actions' of 'spirits'.
Are you privy to things that mere mortals ought not to speak of at the risk of imperiling their sanity and their immortal souls? Are you an extraordinarily privileged individual with arcane knowledge of the afterlife? Are you an exceptionally talented person gifted with an insight into realms unknown by mortal man? Are you possessed of a rare power that the average person in the street can't even dream of possessing? Are you almost superhumanly imbued with a spiritual awareness that earthbound man can never hope to rival? Are you a special human being that we lumpen clods should look up to, someone whose every utterance we should pay special heed to, hanging awestruck upon every syllable as though our lives depend on them?
No. You are a fantasizing dweeb with all the charisma of a dead partridge but without the intelligence, of a dead partridge, that is. A bowl of lumpy and cold porridge holds far more interest to the average person than do you. Plus, there's more chance of the porridge saying something interesting and meaningful.
Nightmares are demonic?!?!
Only if you're, like, 7 years old.
So when does the "Mirror Universe" version of Eric Cartman make his appearance, given that the original poster has just reprised, in his last sentence, Stephen King's Pet Semetry, which South Park spoofed so well ...?
Next, he will be mentioning Angus Scrimm's outside, with a load of homicidal shiny silver balls...
This is called "psychology". When people go to bed, they dream. When they dream, the dream tends to be related to something that's on their minds. It is far from impossible to imagine that one would have nightmares about the deceased after touching a dead body.
The Indian graveyard story sounds anecdotal at best; not the kind of evidence that will stand in a court of law.
Children getting nightmares after seeing a dead body? People getting paranoid when living near a cemetary? Well I'll be, it must be demons!
Occam's Razor wants a word with you.
"I just spoke with somebody the other day who touched a dead body when he was a child, and at that moment something very evil and scary entered him, and he was never the same since."
You're all frightened, superstitious children, terrified that the ghosties and ghoulies will get you while you sleep.
You aren't allowed to watch Poltergeist anymore, child.
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C'mon everyone, let's sing along!
God is in his holy temple. Earthly thoughts be silent now,
While with rev'rence we assemble And before his presence bow.
He is with us, now and ever, When we call upon his name,
Aiding ev'ry good endeavor, Guiding ev'ry upward aim.
So, a couple of kids had nightmares after being forced to kiss dead granny, or whatever. That isn't terribly surprising and an excellent reason to have closed caskets, to avoid traumatising tots.
"Come to find out, their property was an old Indian graveyard and the land was defiled and haunted by demons."
The barrier was not meant to be crossed. The ground is sour.
Sometimes dead is better.
...and to this day, you can hear the cry of demons...
Anyone looking to buy this house? You could get it cheap, it's owned by an idiot.
I remember one person telling how they had nothing but problems in their new home... it was as if the place was cursed! Come to find out, their property was an old Indian graveyard and the land was defiled and haunted by demons.
Yeah, I saw Poltergeist, too.
I had a friend who lived on NJ's notorious Shades of Death Road (no one knows how it acquired such a macabre name), and there were all sorts of ghost rumors in the neighborhood, but he never saw anything.
Wasn't telling ghost stories around the campfire prohibited by the BSA because they got complaints from parents about kids being traumatized?
Such a shame that Dudleytown is now closed to the public. I'd have loved to see how this git reacted to being in a place with such a tragic history still lingering in the air.
Yeah. It's me again. Back with another "thot."
"... When a person dies, the demons that have been inhabiting them are left hanging onto the body, and can remain around that body for years before they find a new home. ..."
Why would it take more than a few minutes for the demons to find a new home? I thought the world is just chocked full of sinners ripe for demonic possession, according to you gullible, superstitious types.
Maybe it's the bad economy? Demons can't qualify for a mortage loan, perhaps?
Nightmares after touching a dead body? Sounds normal to me, I know I'd be having nightmares from that!
But... demons? SRSLY?
Oh, and Native burial ground =/= Demons. Pissed off ghosts, maybe, but not demons.
Okay, so let me get this straight. Two young children come into close contact with corpses, and begin to have nightmares about death and dying. And you, out of all the possible causes, conclude that there must have been demons in the bodies that then attacked those children.
Umm, isn't it at all possible that these children (I'm guessing an age of about five or six) are having nightmares because they were around dead bodies at an age when most of us don't really know how to handle that? Could the nightmares possibly be the result of fear?
Nope, must be evil spirits attacking them. It's the only explanation.
Yeah, I love the old Indian burial ground angle. Why is it that everybody thinks that American Indians, who practiced a sort of Paganism, were all magical creatures whose long-dead bodies are full of magical powers? This has been done to death on TV & in the movies.
I want to touch a dead body, Anonymous; yours.
@ Lucilius
I had a '54 Pontiac hearse once. *sigh* it was great fun to drive but fundies will bumper-jack a hearse if it's parked at the curb. In fact if they see a car that they think looks like a hearse they freak out, such as just about any '30s sedan. For all their posturing and proselytising and claiming happiness, their religion doesn't seem to calm many fears for them. Any aspect of death to them is mysterious (occult), terrifying and evil.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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