[On the adoption agency Catholic Care being made to allow homosexual couples the right to adopt]
Oh dear... do any of you "tolerant" liberals ever actually read what you type? I truly hope none of you are in any position to influence other people! You truly are the most disgusting bigots imaginable in your vitriolic tirades against people that have belief. I bet you all call yourself humanitarians too!!
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I bet the Catholic "Care" did not want the children to be brought up by ffff.f..ffaggots.
Too bad, it's the children's ACTUAL best interest that's important, like a good, loving and nurturing environment that gay couples CAN provide.
Bloody Catholics are sore because a few children have escaped their net. Less fodder for the cult.
I think it's excellent that orphaned kids gets parents, regardless of gender, sexual preference or religion. No vitriol whatsoever, only happy, fuzzy feelings over here.
And yes, I do sometimes call myself a humanitarian.
So, first you're carrying signs that say gay marriage infringes upon your "reigious freedom" to pass laws that discriminate against gays, and now you're victims of bigotry, too? My heart bleeds.
How DARE you allow people to do something you don't like! How positively CRUEL that you're no longer allowed to treat some people as second-class citizens!
Does anyone have that "World's Smallest Violin" macro? Missblueeyes needs it, methinks.
We are the disgusting bigots? Look, believe what you want, I'll believe what I want; we may roll our eyes at each other, but we'll all be happy.
When your beliefs are abhorrent you're bound to attract vitriol. And let's face it, the beliefs of many religious fundamentalists, both Catholic and protestant, are inhumane and express intolerance. It's as if the surrendering of ones humanity to the inflexible dogmas of rabid old scrotes, old scrotes who are using as an excuse for their execrable behaviour the horror laden texts of ancient desert peoples, it's as if you consider that a good thing. You're twisted by scripture.
Those smelly, staring-eyed, wild and sand encrusted madmen would sooner have torn out their straggly beards rather than give up their entitlement to interfere in the sex lives of others. And all in the name of a man-made invention. An invisible sky-dude whose characteristics are those of an extremely nasty and unpleasant man. I hope you're satisfied with your defense of an obnoxious cult of mentally deficient monsters Missblueeyes. What does that make you, you evil being?
I'm convinced, fundies are from Bizarro World where evolution is a fairy tale while creationism is science, where giving gays equal rights is bigotry, where Jesus preached about war and unchecked capitalism, where fetuses are worth more than full grown human beings, and blind faith is exalted over reason. How they managed to get to Earth is a mystery to me though.
Oh dear... do any of you "tolerant" liberals ever actually read what you type?
Moreso than you do, apparently.
I truly hope none of you are in any position to influence other people!
Well, I don't tell people what to think every Sunday, if that's what you mean.
You truly are the most disgusting bigots imaginable in your vitriolic tirades against people that have belief.
Yeah, everybody knows that people of faith haven't ever spoken out against atheists or liberals...or each other.
You're a regular ray of sunshine yourself, Missblueeyes.
I bet you all call yourself humanitarians too!!
Well, I wouldn't necessarily call myself a humanitarian. Let's just say that I don't feel the need to peek into a couple's bedroom in order to determine if they're fit to parent or not, K?
We're not against people with belief. For example I believe you are the truly disgusting bigot here, and your contribution qualifies as a vitriolic tirade. No Liberal is against me for that belief.
It's only belief without evidence that I'm against.
Particularly in cases like this where your superstitions lead you want to want to oppress your neighbours.
Let's see. Us liberals want children to be in loving homes. It doesn't matter if they have two fathers or two mothers, as long as it's loving and caring.
You bigots want orphans to continue being orphans to appease your sky daddy.
Oh dear... do any of you "tolerant" Christians ever actually read what you type? I truly hope none of you are in any position to influence other people! You truly are the most disgusting bigots imaginable in your vitriolic tirades against people that don't have belief. I bet you all call yourself humanitarians too!!
Fixed. Only took two changes too.
"people that have belief"
First, I would submit that your lot is BEYOND belief.
Second, that phrase implies that we are people without any beliefs, which is patently untrue.
I am not "tolerant," rather I value tolerance, the difference being that when people are tolerant, I am tolerant of them. Likewise, when a person shows intolerance of benign difference, I feel intolerant toward them.
Makes perfect sense if you think about it...not that thinking appears to be your strong suit.
While I disagree with the OP's comments (the idea of saying that by not allowing them to be bigots, liberals are bigots themselves is laughable), I have to say I disagree with the decision the OP refers to. As hateful as it is, if the Catholic charity is not run by public moneys, they should have the right to set their own criteria for who they will help and who they won't.
HazelHolly said:
Um. Question. What does part 2 (fundy rant) have to do with part 1 (homosexual adoption allowed)?
Everything!
Yeah, it's an answer only making sense to a fundie!
@ tmarcl
Why should people who neither are harming others nor are criminals be discriminated against? Why should a religious cult be free to act illegally when other groups must be law abiding? Why does the Catholic charity think it is above the equality laws that all others must abide by? Other charities are not allowed to discriminate, what's so special about the Catholic charity? And do they expect to receive the same benefits and perks, if there are any, that other registered charities receive?
You know, most of the people in my church actually believe in the whole "Catholics are supposed to be helpful to all God's children" thing.
Then we get people like this, who for some reason decided to rant at the mirror this morning.
Dear idiots: stop making us look bad. The fact that you went on a vitriolic tirade against bigots only makes you look hypocritical.
I don't hate fundies. I just think that churches should be taxed and have no say in government, education, marriage, or adoption.
@pete
But if you tax churches, wouldn't that justify their being able to lobby and influence the government?
I'm not trying to say you main idea is wrong, but logically the only possibility is to cut religious institutions out of lobbying because they don't pay taxes and to force them to pay taxes if they want to lobby.
"I truly hope none of you are in any position to influence other people! You truly are the most disgusting bigots imaginable in yout vitriolic tirades"
That is one hella shiny mirror.
But seriously, I've reached the point where the next person who I hear spread anti-gay rhetoric is going to get punched in the face. I might be a bigot against bigots, but I'm okay with that.
Yeah, I think we fit the description. Check it out.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humanitarian
hu-man-i-tar-i-an
adjective
1. having concern for or helping to improve the welfare and happiness of people.
2. of or pertaining to ethical or theological humanitarianism.
3. pertaining to the saving of human lives or to the alleviation of suffering: a humanitarian crisis.
noun
4. a person actively engaged in promoting human welfare and social reforms, as a philanthropist.
5. a person who professes ethical or theological humanitarianism.
Wait, if I'm a bigot for objecting to your bigotry, doesn't that make you a bigot for objecting to my objection? OK, I guess you'd say I'm a bigot for objecting to your objection to my objection. But then, that would make you a bigot for objecting to my objection to your objection to my objection.
You started this lógica estúpida ...
Don't waste your precious God loving breath Missblueeyes. You'll never convince these evil Liberals to live a Godly life of love for their Saviour. Most of these so called tolerant do-gooders would sooner save a cheeky child from the stoning it deserves than pray to the Lord of life thanking Him for the gift of stoning. These people like to indulge in logical thought when we both know that thinking is the act of an unholy fiend. They criticize us religious folk when we burn them Liberals alive but don't they know that nothing is worse than crucifixion, these people are sick. If they only opened their hearts to Jesus, they would know what it is to be righteous and saved and how utterly evil it is to presume to be nice or democratic. The sooner these fiendish devil creatures become right-wingers and fundamental Christians .... cont. Page 64
@The L:
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Does anyone have that "World's Smallest Violin" macro? Missblueeyes needs it, methinks. "
Is this one close enough?
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If the Church still ran the state, that would be one thing. However, here it is acting as an agent of the state-run adoption program, and must therefore comply with state standards, same as everyone else.
Quote - "Catholic Care is a charitable organisation working on behalf of the diocese of Leeds. It offers a variety of services and support not only to the Catholic population, but also to <b>the wider community as a whole.</b>"
So what about de gays then?
@Fundie For Love
"Don't waste your precious God loving breath Missblueeyes. You'll never convince these evil Liberals to live a Godly life of love for their Saviour. Most of these so called tolerant do-gooders would sooner save a cheeky child from the stoning it deserves than pray to the Lord of life thanking Him for the gift of stoning. These people like to indulge in logical thought when we both know that thinking is the act of an unholy fiend. They criticize us religious folk when we burn them Liberals alive but don't they know that nothing is worse than crucifixion, these people are sick. If they only opened their hearts to Jesus, they would know what it is to be righteous and saved and how utterly evil it is to presume to be nice or democratic. The sooner these fiendish devil creatures become right-wingers and fundamental Christians .... cont. Page 64"
OMG, that was like the best ACTUAL Poe EVAR! I seriously couldn't tell for like the first three or four sentences...
@Pule Thamex
@ tmarcl
Why should a religious cult be free to act illegally when other groups must be law abiding?
I realize it's unlikely anyone will read this this late in the game (I got bored one day and decided to go back through my posts), but I'm going to comment anyways. I've snipped most of this for brevity.
The reason I think that a private organization that is not receiving public funding (which, apparently, it is. I didn't realize that, thanks Doc Whom. For the sake of argument, however, let's pretend it isn't for now) should be allowed to discriminate is because it is a private organization. If we tell people that they have the right to associate with whomever they choose, we also have to allow them the opposite - the right to not associate with whomever they choose, even if others find it distasteful. It's the same as free speech - the right to speak your mind doesn't end just because someone finds what you have to say distasteful.
As I said, initially I thought the charity wasn't receiving public funds, and thus my comment. If they are receiving public funds, then of course, they need to abide by the same laws as every other group that receives public funds.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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