(responding to a poster who asked what she would do if one of her kids was gay)
This is a hypothetical question. What would you do if you found out your child is a child molester or mass murderer? Homosexuals are on the same (or worse) level of depravity. I would be absolutely disgusted with them and not want to socialize with them any more than I would want to socialize with the other examples given.
But how likely do you think it is for your child to grow up and be a Hitler or a sex predator? Do you think raising such a monster would be avoidable if you did your job as a parent right? According to the Bible, only unbelievers can become homos, because they have rejected God and hate Him. In turn, God turns His back on them, and they become the dirty animals that they are because they are only following their wicked, perverted hearts.
Our children grow up with the Bible as their guide from birth. At a young age, as soon as they are old enough to understand, they make their own choice to believe on God and become Christians, thereby making it impossible to ever become a reprobate. The reason why so many kids grow up in Christian homes and turn out fags is because they never get saved to begin with because they might be hearing a confusion of the gospel, such as that they need to "give up their sins" in order to be saved. Add to that the fact that most churches push their nurseries, day cares, and Christian schools, many of which are teeming with predators, and there is a good chance that the child will end up getting molested, and thus hating and rejecting anything they perceive as having to do with God, religion, or church.
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Drop the Zzzz's that you've been catching and wake up to real life.
And for the sake of everyone, please don't have any more kids! Pretty please? with sugar on top?
And did you know that the only reason your favorite team ever loses is because some fan somewhere was delinquent in wearing his lucky socks?
It happens. There is nothing you can do about it. So coming up with these arbitrary rituals that you claim will save you from it will only serve to misdirect your anger when it ends up happening, anyway.
According to the Bible, only unbelievers can become homos....
Reason no. 87,304 why the Bible is wrong. Props on reading Romans ch. 1 correctly, though.
Oh Lord, I applaud you! You and I are sooo much alike, basking in the glory of God! My little girl Bailey is definitely a breath of homeschooled freshness. Recently, at the age of 14, she has given us another beautiful grandchild! It's her third, and we couldn't be more proud of her for allowing the Lord's seed to live in her womb! Nothing made me prouder than when I walked in her room, to find her on her knees in front of her father, her face covered in the glory of the Lord! Keep up the good work, and don't let Satan get hold of your family. Our well-adjusted daughter is living proof of the power of Christ!
To the contrary, maanantai, I can't wait for the day that one of her offspring comes out or gets caught in the act, whatever happens first. The more children she has, the higher the probability.
"And did you know that the only reason your favorite team ever loses is because some fan somewhere was delinquent in wearing his lucky socks?"
I thought it was because God, in his infinite wisdom, intervenes, and makes the other team win.
God also helps ensure the most tacky, and soulless rappers, and pop musicians win awards every year too. I'd hate to imagine a world where someone like Frank Zappa could have had a bigger influence over music than Metallica, or Madonna.
"According to the Bible, only unbelievers can become homos"
Try telling my boyfriend that, he's been a Christian all of his life!
But you see he is actually a Christian, you know the ones that believe in love and tolerance not the batshit insane f**ked up ideology you call Christianity!
Homosexuals are worse than mass murderers? You know what I think is worse than both? People who are unable to distinguish good from wrong without the help of a holy book.
And BULLSHIT on the "only unbelievers an become homos" because Teg Faggard thinks it's FABULOUS!
"What would you do if you found out your child is a child molester or mass murderer? Homosexuals are on the same (or worse) level of depravity."
It disturbs me that anyone can actually think of child molesters and mass murderes as being better than gay people.
They need to sort their fucking priorities out.
The train up a child thing is bs, you know. You can do everything the bible says and your kids could be gay and/or drop religion.
Especially you creepy Quiverfulls. Odds.
"According to the Bible, only unbelievers can become homos,"
According to the bible, PI=3, so everything following is a load of crap.
<i>Our children <b>grow up with the Bible as their guide from birth</b>. At a young age, as soon as they are old enough to understand, <b>they make their own choice</b> to believe on God and become Christians</i>
So you indoctrinate them from birth, and it's their "choice" to believe? Does not compute.
Retard.
"What would you do if you found out your child is a child molester or mass murderer? Homosexuals are on the same (or worse) level of depravity."
Why do you feel this? Molesting and murdering is not wrong because your dickhead of a god said so, it's wrong because you're purposely harming someone for your own selfish reasons. Being homosexual is NOT! THE! SAME!
"Our children grow up with the Bible as their guide from birth"
Bibles are blinkers, not guides.
"At a young age, as soon as they are old enough to understand, they make their own choice to believe on God and become Christians"
This statement reveals your stupidity. Indoctrination nullifies the 'choice'.
"The reason why so many kids grow up in Christian homes and turn out fags is because they never get saved to begin with...."
Do you like to fuck men because you were saved when younger? Is the acceptance of Jesus as your lord and saviour the thing that gets you wet for boys?
Bitch!
Wait...so people need to be christians in order to stop what's in their 'wicked, perverted hearts', but churches are actually (according to you) churning out the perverts with their schools, nurseries and day cares?
So, which is it that christianity provides? Protection from being a perv or training to become one?
Confucius say, "He who speaks from both sides of mouth talks a lot of shit".
"...The reason why so many kids grow up in Christian homes and turn out fags is because they never get saved to begin with because they might be hearing a confusion of the gospel, such as that they need to "give up their sins" in order to be saved. ..."
WTF? So you DON'T have to give up your "sins" in order to be saved???
Sounds like zzzzzzzzzzsanna is the one who's confused. (Though her interpretation would explain why fundyism attracts so many jerks.)
Homosexuality does not equate to pedophilia. Over 90% of pedophiles are heterosexual men. That's strike one.
You buybull states you are to love your children, and your turning away is a no on. Strike Two.
Your force feeding that buy bull to little children, scaring them with it... Strike three... I hope you never give birth, as any child raised by you would mentally and emotionally traumatized.
Homosexuality = mass murder = sexual assault = genocide
I think there's something wrong with your math since none of those are equal. And nice job covering your ass with the 'No True Scotsman' at the end. Classic fundie maneuver.
"What would you do if you found out your child is a child molester or mass murderer? Homosexuals are on the same (or worse) level of depravity."
Yeah, because a willing homosexual having sex with another willing homosexual is on the same level, if not worse, than killing a large number of people or touching an eight year old inappropriately.
This guy deserves to get his shit slapped.
@baileysmom
I know you post that particular post a lot, but in the context of this particular fundie quote it just made me lol.
@Zsuzsanna Anderson
This is a hypothetical question. What would you do if you found out your child is a baby rapist or a bioterrorist? Interracial couples are on the same (or worse) level of depravity. I would be absolutely disgusted with them and not want to socialize with them any more than I would want to socialize with the other examples given.
That's how stupid you sound. And how the hell are two consenting adults worse than mass murderers and molesters (both of which violate their victims' consent and cause harm to them)?
"At a young age, as soon as they are old enough to understand, they make their own choice to believe on God and become Christians, thereby making it impossible to ever become a reprobate."
And I bet if they don't make the "right" choice, you stop putting food "on" them and kick them out, just like the Amish do. Do the words, "under duress" mean anything to you, clam head?
Why am I reminded of Iran's president claiming there are no gays in Iran? Seems to be the same type of idiotic denial.
only unbelievers can become homos
Tell that to all the gay Christians out there...
Our children grow up with "The Night Before Christmas" as their guide from birth. At a young age, as soon as they are old enough to understand, they make their own choice to believe on Santa Claus and become good members of a consumer society, thereby making it impossible to ever think for themselves.
According to the Bible, only unbelievers can become homos, because they have rejected God and hate Him.
So Ted Haggard is/was an unbeliever?
Don't worry, "Zsuzsanna," that's a choice you'll never have to make, because your kids will grow up to hate your stupid fucking evil guts. They'll leave you to die alone and homo-free.
If you're at all true to your christian faith you would welcome your child molester or mass murderer with open arms. After all the OT is wholly in favour of both.
If you follow the NT you'd welcome your gay child with open arms because it's what jesus would do.
now why the fuck does an atheist have to explain your bible to you?
FFS, being gay is not the same thing as being a child molester or mass murderer. Gay people don't automatically turn into mass murderers, and even if they did, homosexuality would have nothing to do with it.
And for the last time, the vast majority of child molesters are heterosexual males within the victim's family. So stop looking out for that scary gay man and start looking at the men in your family.
I seriously don't understand why they can't wrap their heads around CONSENT. Fuck you, Zsuzanna.
So if you were forced to choose between raping and killing a bunch of kids or lezzing up for a bit, you'd seriously consider the raping and killing?
You are a fucking horrible person.
Yep, cuz gays are out there murdering people, raping straight men, and molesting the children. *gag* GBT the kitchen, Zsuzsanna, and make your husband a sandwich, like a good little subservient Christian sla- er, "wife".
This is how you get saved according to the bible: " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10,9)
It is all about faith, not works! Catholics teach works salvation and therefore most of them are not saved.
Homosexuality is rebellion against Gods order of creation. It is therefore a sin and God takes it so seriously, because acceptance of it would turn everything he has intended for human beings upside down, like we see it in todays world (e. g. messed up relationships between men, women and children in the family).
Homosexuality is in its essence anti-Creator, anti-Christian.
Loving someone of the same gender is worse than murdering lots of people or violating children? Are you insane?
The Bible barely mentions homosexuals. On the same level of sin in the Bible are working on the Sabbath, eating shellfish and wearing mixed fiber clothing.
Would you also turn your back on your kids if they did any of those things?
You are not really old enough to fully understand until you are about 18.
Christian schools and daycares are teeming with predators? Why would you want to send your kids there, then?
Send them to secular schools and daycare instead, where child-molesters are immediately fired and prosecuted.
@Rebecca, messed up relationships between men, women and children in the family have, I suspect, little to do with the existence of homosexuality and far more to do with the relationship issues between family members, as well as the pressures of current economic hardships and the rigid gender roles dictated by religion. Don't blame gays for the 50% divorce rate among Baptists.
Homosexuality is no more anti-Christian than Pi=3.14159265 is anti-Christian.
At a young age, as soon as they are old enough to understand, they make their own choice to believe on God and become Christians, thereby making it impossible to ever become a reprobate.
most churches push their nurseries, day cares, and Christian schools, many of which are teeming with predators, and there is a good chance that the child will end up getting molested
Spot the paradox.
"The reason why so many kids grow up in Christian homes and turn out fags is because they never get saved to begin with because they might be hearing a confusion of the gospel, such as that they need to "give up their sins" in order to be saved."
Wait, so you can happily sin as a Christian?
"Add to that the fact that most churches push their nurseries, day cares, and Christian schools, many of which are teeming with predators, and there is a good chance that the child will end up getting molested, and thus hating and rejecting anything they perceive as having to do with God, religion, or church."
Oh no, we've got a homeschooler on our hands. One who'll tell her sheltered children that sinning is fine as long as you're a good Conservative Christian (tm) because you can get instaforgiveness while everyone else will burn for eternity.
That's right, folks, a gay man who NEVER HURTS ANYONE is just as harmful as a mass murderer, child molester, or arsonist! Watch as he commits the horrifying crimes of HAVING UNUSUAL ROMANTIC TENDENCIES and occasionally ACTING ON THEM! Gaze on in horror as he destroys America and Western civilization in general by DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
Seriously, this is idiotic.
... it must be so nice taking the work out of who to hate. Actually having morals, unlike Ms. Anderson, takes good rational thinking. With religion providing the thoughtless answers, simply point and shoot the filth.
Hate to have to tell you Z.A., but it won't make the slightest difference how you raise your kids, you've still got at least one non-hetero in your brood.
When I was doing the LGBT activism thing in college, we had two groups of people who were overrepresented in the campus support groups: high school football players, and preachers' kids.
I just hope your kid finds someone to really support him/her when the time comes to come out of the closet...
Hmm, Murder, pedophilia, and Godwinned, and all in one post? This is quite a gem, of all the bad things I've been told I am for being gay, this one tops the list!
And on a related note, I would give my left testicle to be present when one of her kids comes out to her, imagine that look of horror =).
Though to be perfectly honest, if one of her kids is gay, I whish him/her the best of luck, it's hard as hell to be gay and come from a world like this!
My kids know clearly that the day they experiment with sin is the day they cease to be my kids. If they repent and turn back to Christ, then my husband and I will welcome them back with open arms again. All of our children but one have grown up to be amazing, godly men and women, and we've never even had to deal with an issue like this. Our youngest, now 17, did go through a phase where he got into Gangster rap and Marilyn Manson, but we straightened him out quick.
@His4Life:
You are a disgusting person. My mother was caring and understanding when I told her I was gay. Because that's what good mothers do; they accept their children no matter what their sexual orientation.
Had you had a gay child, I would feel immensely sorry for the poor kid, to have you as a mother. That's just cruel.
This woman is an ignorant, hateful cunt. I feel sorry for her kids. Just reading her mindless blog makes me feel like my iq has dropped several points. Szuzsanna, Rebecca, His4life and other religiotards of their stripe remind me of why I so despise organized religion.
Wow, so you'd hate your kids if they were gay? At least, that's what I got out of this ranting screed.
I'm glad you're not my parent. Not that I'm gay, but still.
@Saccharissa
@Rebecca:
"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." James 2:24
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@His4Life-
Fuck you, asshole. You don't just abandon your kids just because 2000 years ago some goatfuckers in the middle east had a problem with gay people. As much as you like to preach about it, you fundies HAVE no morality. You need a dusty old book written by a primitive society to tell you how to live your life and as a result you're still mentally a child; you only understand everything in absolutes and only respond to reward and punishment rather than what is actually right and wrong. Go fuck yourself with a cactus.
@baileysmom
Oh Lord, I applaud you! You and I are sooo much alike, basking in the glory of God! My little girl Bailey is definitely a breath of homeschooled freshness. Recently, at the age of 14, she has given us another beautiful grandchild! It's her third, and we couldn't be more proud of her for allowing the Lord's seed to live in her womb! Nothing made me prouder than when I walked in her room, to find her on her knees in front of her father, her face covered in the glory of the Lord! Keep up the good work, and don't let Satan get hold of your family. Our well-adjusted daughter is living proof of the power of Christ!
I'm assuming this isn't the real baileysmom from RR. In which case, nice on the image, bad on the spoofing.
"The reason why so many kids grow up in Christian homes and turn out fags is because they never get saved to begin with because they might be hearing a confusion of the gospel, such as that they need to "give up their sins" in order to be saved."
Yes,because the 'gospel' is not remotely contradictory,pathetic,ignorant or bigoted at all.
And are you also suggesting that molestation of children 'makes' them become homosexual? Priests are sure doing a great job of 'making' more homosexuals then!
Yes, the Bible does say that people turn gay because they aren't doing what God tells them to.
This alone should make you question the veracity of the Bible. Just look at Bobby Griffith and other countless gay Christians who go through years of agonizing self-loathing because they think God hates them for what they are.
homosexuals are worse than murderers or child-fuckers? boy, your parents fucked YOU up. i feel sorry for you kids. i hope they get away from you and your cult and get a chance at happiness. and if they're gay, well that's just poetic justice...
While everything Zsuzsanna said is utter bullshit and idiocy, I feel compelled to answer her question. If I had a kid and he or she was a child molester, I'd kill them. If they were a mass murderer, I'd help them.
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