Unless [Genesis] creation is taught in Australian schools, Australia will become more and more atheistic, truth will be only relative, and this will lead to the further decline in ethical values in Australia, and the further chaos and breakdown of our functioning society ... The teaching of creation will help restore ethical values and decency and blessing in Australia.
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yeah, because "kill anyone not us", "oh, its ok as long as you pray and say you're sorry afterwards" attitudes, "rape the girl and stone her to death if she talks or you don't wanna marry her", "have more kids even if you can't or don't want to take care of more", "give your money to priest. NOW", along with the rejection of reality in favor of old fairytale ripoffs is *REALLY* ethical and decent.
"rape the girl and stone her to death if she talks or you don't wanna marry her"
Okay, someone explain how the fuck Creationism teaches people values? If they teach the one about Eve bieng created from the rib of Adam, it more or less teaches that women are inferior and to be subservient... wait, I just answered my own question. Women being property is a 'decent moral value' and 'pro family' to Fundies.
Just a thought -- isn't an increased emphasis on religion likely to breed an underclass of "unsaved" who figure they're going to hell anyway, so they can pretty much do whatever they want?
... okay. Speaking as an Australian?
If you want creationism taught in Aussie schools, do it in religious schools.
ah, the good old christian values of the family first party and pauline hanson. Without them australia would surely be, as pauline hanson herself put it, swamped by asians.
Normally, I'm really happy that I live in the part of the world that's the furthest from Fundy Central.
Unless [Genesis] creation is taught in Australian schools, Australia will become more and more atheistic [...] I certainly hope so.[...] truth will be only relative [...] I fail to see what this means. Science and truth is not relative, it's based on facts, theories and laws. Everything proven should be accepted, regardless of implications. It's religious people who disregard whole sections of their Bibles because it no longer suits their teachings.
[...] and this will lead to the further decline in ethical values in Australia, and the further chaos and breakdown of our functioning society ... I can't help but notice that whenever someone ends a statement on a forum with ellipses, it's a sure-fire way of knowing they've got zero clue as to what they're talking about.
The teaching of creation will help restore ethical values and decency and blessing in Australia. What 'ethical values' are you talking about here? If gay bashing and xenophobia, sure. If lower divorce and crime rates, no.
I'm of the mind that if they want to teach creationism in science class, then I'm entitled to walk into any fundie church and teach evolution, astrophysics, and the like.
Truth is a constant, decency is a variable standard, human ethics may be relative to situations. Blessing is an invented religious concept to explain unusual "good fortune". Creationism is a religious fable designed to explain creation in a supernatural vein to honor one's god or gods by ancient man, and there are as many different ones as there are religions. So teach science in schools and your religion in your churches.
To restore which ethical values?, disobedience, fratricide, sexism?..........or to lie to people about something that scientists have found patently untrue?, are you suggesting to lie for Jesus, regardless of the truth?
Oh yes, all modern social problems can be traced to the teaching of evolution. After all, everyone knows the world was perfect back before Darwin, right? Right? Anyone? Bueller?
Genesis creation WAS taught in Swedish schools when I was little. In Religion Class, that is (during my first three years in school, it was even called Christianity Class). We still had a state church at that time. We manage to become one of the most secular and non-religious countries in the world, anyway. We still have ethics and decency though.
As stupid as: unless they died in my faith their life was worthless.
In fact, what you have to offer are not morality and truth, but myths, lies, with a mix of ancient outdated and modern reactionary ethical judgments.
But typically fundamentalist, so will WTF.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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