Ralph #fundie

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Someone says to Ralph: "don't try to tell me that Atheism is the influence of Satan"

Ralph's response: "You told me not to try to tell you that Atheism is influenced by Satan. I will tell you exactly that. Let me ask you something, where do those atheist get their morals from? If there is no God, then we are just animals, why would we have morals? Why not let the powerful do what they want, no one could stop them anyway, let the weak die. Why tell the truth unless it serves your purposes? Do you see my point, what are morals?"

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old comment by Swede

We get our morals from the pre-Judaic Golden Rule, and quite a bit from the ancient Roman and Greek civilizations.

Why "just" animals? What's wrong with animals? Most animals treat each other (within the same herd, pack, school or whatever, at least) with something bordering on respect or "morals".

One of the most powerful entities in the world is the Catholic Church. It seems to be doing what it wants, and no-one can indeed stop it. It has been letting the weak, perhaps not die, but be molested by ordained priests, and when the priests have been discovered, the Church have just moved them to a new parish, with new kids to molest. Why tell the truth unless it serves your purposes? Do you see my point; what are morals?

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If there is no God, then we are just animals, why would we have morals?

And with God we have such great morals as:

Stoning a child to death.
Stoning a rape victim to death.
Forcing rape victims to marry their rapist and never be able to deny them sex in the future. (How to force someone to be raped over and over again in one easy moral)
Stoning anyone who does any work at all on the wrong day.
Committing outright genocide with the exception of the virgin females who are taken as forced brides... by the very people who just killed their families.

I'd mention that we are social animals, and the society has rules that members follow or get removed/punished... and nearly all of them come about because working together is a damned sight more successful that every man for themselves/might makes right. (because a group of 10 can easily beat 1... so much for not being able to stop them, eh?) Only problem is, you wouldn't fucking listen because you've got your head too firmly wedged in your God's imaginary arse!

old comment by Inksci

Here's how it works, Ralph. We do for ourselves and do what we want, but we can't get everything we want because we're not perfect. This leads us to work with other human beings to use to get things we need. Much like barter economies, both parties use each other to get something that they want from the others. As this concept evolved, we
became more of one big unit and developed laws to regulate these social situations like making things like Murder illegal because it makes our big system less efficient and creates unnecessary friction. Eventually we became so civilized that we started for caring for people that some would consider "undesirable" out of sentiment and kindness.

Well, that's my theory anyway.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"If there is no God, then we are just animals, why would we have morals?"

I could murder/rape/harm a man/woman/child, but I choose not to. Mainly because I wouldn't like it if someone did the same to me.

I could smoke myself into an early grave, but I choose not to. Mainly because the sight of others smoking behind the bike sheds at school - inhaling that crap deliberately - put me off doing so for life.

I could become a walking distillery, so as to put Oliver Reed to shame, but I choose not to. Mainly because watching a relative die of complete circulatory collapse due to extreme alcohol poisoning, in my youth, served as the perfect object lesson-cum-aversion therapy; trust me, watching that isn't a pretty sight, instead I drink in moderation.

I could become a walking pharmaceutical lab, taking every known & unknown) hallucinogen, but I choose not to. I like my brain 'as is', and don't fancy fucking up such with alien substances; if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and all that jazz.

Choosing to not behave as you fundies would stereotype we Atheists. Destroying any & all your so-called 'arguments'. Feels good, man.

Moral: I choose to be a normal, decent, civilised, non-believer - and thus piss off you fundies - because I can. No 'Morals' required. Religion doesn't have the monopoly on them, you know.

@Snopester in Exile

That was on BBC & Sky News here in the UK. Proof that Cats are Awesome indeed. b=^_^=d

Ralph #fundie behindthebadge.net

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