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A Christian does not question God, requiring logical proof. Romans 1:17 - 2 Corinthians 5:7 - Galatians 2:20 and 3:11 - Hebrews 10:38 We live by faith not by sight.... Let the logic cease!

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

"A Christian does not question God, requiring logical proof. Romans 1:17 - 2 Corinthians 5:7 - Galatians 2:20 and 3:11 - Hebrews 10:38 We live by faith not by sight...."

Because to do so is thoughtcrime. [/"1984"]

"Let the logic cease!"

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Sputnik 1. Yuri Gagarin. Apollo 11. Voyager/Mariner/Sojourner/Spirit/Opportunity probes. Internaional Space Station. Archaeopteryx/Tiktaalik/Darwinius massilae/Ardipithecus. Large Hadron Collider.

More than enough proof to utterly annihilate your so-called 'Bible'. This is your current location:

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Not many gaps left eh, fundies? All you lot have left is the insane, unjustifiable delusion you call 'faith'. Meanwhile, the juggernaut that is Reality, based on Science, Reason, Evidence, Proof and Logic rolls inexorably on; ever onwards towards the tomorrow that is Progress and future that is Humanity. Deal with it.

old comment by Angua

Well, I can see where she is coming from:

Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could evolve purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing". "But," says man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It proves you exist and so therefore you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. "Oh, that was easy," says man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white, and gets killed on the next zebra crossing.

-- Do I really need to credit this? Shame on you if you don't know what I'm quoting. If there is anyone out there who has not read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy you need to go and read it now. What are you doing here? What are you waiting for? Go!

old comment by aaron

Faith doesn't mean "Abandon all God-given mental faculties ye who enter here" If God wants us to "let the logic cease!" the why then does God's word speak to us in metaphor if we weren't meant to use logic and reason? Are you saying that the olive tree is a literal olive tree? That gentiles will be physically grafted in to it? Sounds painful!!

You are correct that it is by faith we are saved. Faith is evidence, not an excuse for a faulty hypothesis. Moses forwent the riches of Egypt because he looked to the reward, e.g. had respect unto the recompense of. It was this manifestation of faith by which he will be saved. Not blindly following his emotional whims as to what God did or didn't want him to do.

God blessed us with mental faculties beyond the rest of the animal kingdom and gave us the ability to use logic and reason and it is from this that we are equipped to tell what is true from what is false. What seperates the Bible from other religious books and what makes it invulnerable to false doctrine is that we CAN use logic and reason to see the truth and the light of God's Word.

When a preacher, christian, politician, whomever tells you something that doesn't make sense, look to the Bible for answers and pray that God will show you the path towards reason and logic, truth and light.

This notion of "divine mystery" and logic-less faith is what keeps false doctrines going through the years, oh we can't understand that, but just believe this guy over here that this is correct and this is what God wants.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"A Christian does not question God, requiring logical proof. Romans 1:17 - 2 Corinthians 5:7 - Galatians 2:20 and 3:11 - Hebrews 10:38 We live by faith not by sight...."

1 Thessalonians 5:21: 'Test all things; hold fast that which is good'

Fundies would say 'Do not test the lord thy God'. What about the little matter of Abraham & Isaac. What's that, chopped liver?! If your precious deity can test others, then so can we with him. 'Sauce for the Goose', and all that jazz. Otherwise, one word: Hypocrisy. And didn't God (via Jesus) condemn hypocrites - the Pharisees?

Moral: Your own 'Word of God' orders you to test, nay, question your 'God's existence. And so what, if in the process, your so-called 'faith' is destroyed? Good. Welcome to our world. Today is the first day of the rest of your life; as in free from the yoke of unjustifiable superstitious religious 'belief'. Question [i]everything[/i]. What harm does it do? Reality exists. It's religious 'faith' that is destroyed by the questioning, cynical mind.

'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'

-Thomas Jefferson

'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.'

-Marcus Aurelius

Seems this ancient Roman won the bet before Pascal had even been born to make his 'Wager'...! [/smartarse]

"Let the logic cease!"

Stop using that computer then.

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