["... This could only happen through evolution, ... This means that there must've been a common ancestor that had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that this animal branched into two distinct species."]
By saying this you are denying the omnipotence of God......His unlimited power. God created the heaven and the earth and all that dwell therein. He chose for the chromosomes to be placed as they are within man and within monkeys. Many scientists have studied themselves out of a belief in God. They have laid aside the natural knowledge of God for the un-natural knowledge of the world and its humanistic systems. Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.
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"They have laid aside the natural knowledge of God for the un-natural knowledge of the world and its humanistic systems."
Lemme see if I have this right:
My brain hurts.
I have a dream that one day people will be held accountable for what they proclaim. that those who deride science are forever denied it's benefits. That they are denied scientific advancements from crop rotation to genetic therapies.
I really want all these nutjobs to just become amish and fuck off.
And this, of course, points out one of the flaws of assuming God: whenever you don't want to explain something, you say "Goddidit. Shut up," and then proceed to refuse to listen to anyone who says you can't use God since that person doesn't accept the hypothesis.
"Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist."
And I wonder how many other things wouldn't have, either. Your privileges to use the benefits of scientific advancements are REVOKED!
I was going to reply, but then I saw that it was a Mrs. Debbie quote and the urge to do so flew away. Sort of like a flog growing wings through evolution. Fly froggie, fly. Fly to the man in the sky and ask him to give you courage and your friend, Mrs. Debbie, a brain.
There is no reason why God couldn't have "designed" evolution. That's called "theistic evolution". Many scientists of faith accept it. In fact, such a god would actually be far smarter than the simple god imagined by fundies. Evolution and God are not in conflict. The conflict is only between evolution and the Bible , not evolution and God. It's fundies who deny the omnipotence of God - they create God in the image of the Bible, a book written 4,000 years ago by a bunch of bronze age Arab sheep herder.
The number of chromosomes is an irrelevant statistic. Chromosomes can split and recombine. Ferns have thousands of chromosomes.
Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would noy exist.
No, nor much of anything else either.
Come on, as a fundie you can basically claim whatever you want. How about you argue that god himself has made evolution happen, and it's all part of his creation process? Would make it a lot easier to deal with those pesky fossils and everything, wouldn't it? Bet you wish you'd thought of that one right away, don't you? Well, I guess its too late now, uh, maybe next time?
"Why should men in the name of religion try to harmonize the contradictions that exist between Nature and a book? Why should philosophers be denounced for placing more reliance upon what they know than upon what they have been told?"
Robert Ingersoll
.........."Some Mistakes of Moses", 1879
Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.
Also, we'd still be living as serfs under a feudal lord.
Yeah, you're probably right. What you failed to mention, however, was that we would still be in the bronze-age, attributing things to ghosts, goblins, dragons and evil spirits. That is no way to live.
Mrs Debbie, you're missing the point. If you really want to be up there with Randy and Carico, you need to be less nice and caring.
See how they do it, condemning all sorts of people to hell, self-righteous to the core and just radiating arrogance.
You'll never make it to the top three with your style.
Had man continued in the knowledge of God, you would have never had the intarwebs to testify how abysmally stupid you are.
Dead by 40, infant mortality way up there, annual epidemics,...if that is what you'd rather have, please return to the ninth century.
Humanism is the best 'religion' for humanity. Perfect fit, actually. Since god has never demonstrated any humanist behavior, he is evil.
Eeeeevil, I tells ya!
And stupider than sin, judging by his 'official' fan club.
Following your logic, why did he give us free will?, why did he decided that water passed through 2 different stages?, why did he allowed us to develop medicine?. Why did he developed eggs and spermatozoids in humans to form new ones?
If your god is omnipotent, he's a real asshole. If he's not, he's a liar.
Asshole or liar? Which one would you rather worship?
-pb
he's more than a malevolent trickster. he's the Pleroma's first mistake, as well as the first blasphemer.
Rest assured, his mama would've squished him like a bug, had the concept of destruction existed. Also, once you give rise to a psychic entity, it's not too easy to kill it.
So she swept him under the rug, i.e., into the psychic region that we mortals inhabit.
I like my scripture mo'betta. Makes more sense.
Had humanity not started questioning dogma, we'd still be living in the dark ages. People would still be dying of smallpox by the millions each year and we wouldn't have the level of technology we have now.
You lose on all counts, Debs!
Believe it or not, fundies actually have argued this point in a court of law, albeit a bit more eloquently then the Deb-ster here. They are now trying to change the definition of science in order to sneak Intelligent Design into science curiculum.
What is Mrs Debbie doing on a site called Teens for Christ?
(BAAAD Swede! I'm just as prejudiced as I berate fundies for being. However, I think she has the right to live her life her way, as it in no way affects mine.)
No, no. Fact beat fiction. Know your rock-paper-scissors-fiction-fact.
Of course, rock beats fact.
Omnipotence?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Idiot.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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