Thanks for the information. I've already decided there is no way I would ever let my family get a flu vaccine. Too late about other vaccines. My daughter has had them all except the HPV vaccine. I woke up about vaccines before she came of age for that.
It is an interesting theory about Autism and I don't dispute it. However, I don't think one-note theories or studies tell us what we need to know. I would like the study to emcompass much more. For instance, can it be that people who feel strongly enough not to vaccinate their children also don't feed them processed foods. The Industrialized Western diet is responsible for so much disease it could easily be a contributing factor in Autism. Also, exactly what is it in the vaccines that causes the problem, and how else is that factor entering our lives.
I don't trust studies because results are often skewed to the results being looked for, and look at what nutritional science has done to us the past 50 years, but I would still like to see some comprehensive studies done on this issues.
I'm interested in what we can do to compensate after the fact. Can you detox your children to undo the damage done?
What about tetanus shots? Necessary evil or should be avoided at all costs?
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Your irrationality and ignorance is going to completely mess up herd immunity if people like you continue.
Go pick up a book, learn to think critically, and stop trying to put the rational population at risk.
There has been NO EVIDENCE showing that the rumor that vaccines cause autism is in any way true.
I feel sorry for this person's children. I hope they live in a shack isolated from other humans for the rest of their lives, because otherwise it's likely they'll run across one of those diseases they've not been vaccinated against.
The fixative that was under suspicion was removed from vaccines some years back.
Probably a number of vaccines can wait till before entering a group situation (such as kindergarten, pre-school, or group day care) if no family member is at high risk of contagion. Don't hold back on polio vaccine. And if you live or are planning to vacation in any area that has had ungulates (hoofed farm or game animals) in the past fifty years, don't hold back on tetanus.
Two of my relatives had flu shots, and I didn't. We all got the same flu.
Males should also get the HPV shots. Unvaccinated males are a reservoir of virus, they can get venereal warts, and although we don't know if the virus causes male reproductive cancers, don't rule it out.
Vaccines save lives! The risks of taking them are small compared to *not* having them!
Nothing makes me more angry than gullible fucktards putting their children at risk without even batting an eyelash.
Yes, thimerosol contains mercury - not that this preservative is used much any more. But today you consumed sodium and chlorine. Did you blow up or asphyxiate? It's all about the chemical compounds, you nitwit.
Well at least he makes a point that a lot of our food is unhealthy as shit, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it causes autism and I wouldn't say vaccines cause them either, all we have now is better detection tools and gives the illusion that it is increasibg. I don't get flu shots because I know how to stay healthy and I hardly ever get sick, so it would be a waste of money for me.
@Sergeant343:
>> I don't get flu shots because I know how to stay healthy and I hardly ever get sick, so it would be a waste of money for me. <<
Bullshit.
If by 'I know how to stay healthy', you mean washing your hands and other such preventative measures, that is good. But you should still get the flu vaccine .
Here's the main reason why: in urban areas, one life is saved for every few hundred flu vaccines administered. Turning that around, your not getting the annual flu vaccine every year for thirty years is equivalent to your accepting a 10% chance of killing somebody's grandparent. Even if you are healthy enough that you have minimal symptoms from infection, you can still transmit the disease.
And depending on where you live, there are many places where vaccines are provided for free. So get your flu shot every year.
"I don't trust studies because results are often skewed to the results being looked for, and look at what nutritional science has done to us the past 50 years, but I would still like to see some comprehensive studies done on this issues."
Studies could be skewed I suppose, but then the results are published, and this is where the peer-reviewed bit comes in. Though no doubt this person will believe that ALL those scientists doing the peer-reviewing are in on the conspiracy...
As to getting vaccinated - that should be subject to individual choice IMO, though I would STRONGLY encourage all parents to get whatever shots their doctor recommends(that is, a properly trained and experienced medical practitioner, not a quack.
And it's not just their children that are at risk if they refuse vaccinations. It makes me mad that they are putting other children at risk, including those who cannot receive shots for genuine medical reasons, and even those who do get vaccinated may still suffer in an outbreak.
What about tetanus shots?
Oh, you don't want to get one of those - I hear they're the ones the government hides their mind-controlling microchips in!
Seriously, though, I shudder to think how the global effort to eradicate smallpox would've gone had cranks like these had more influence back in the day.
It is your right as a free citizen to express your poor mental health as you see fit. You have the right to be completely insane, and the right to be a vector for diseases that you can easily be inoculated against. It is patriotic to be a disease carrier when the alternative is to be cured by vaccination. Also, as a free citizen, surely it is your right to want your children to be unwell.
RawKnitser, disease spreader for freedom.
Yeah, eating a healthy diet without a lot of sugars and processed ingredients is definitely good.
Tetanus shots, also good. Unless you really want the lockjaw. It's a painful thing to go through and possibly fatal.
Didn't we have this argument around 1800-:s?
Oh, and as for tetanus shot, go jump on a rusty nail, will you?
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