God, nothing reminds me of why I hate leftists more than reading a feminist. No great culture or civilization has ever valued equality, at least not as modern leftists conceive it, especially not equality between men and women. Nature doesn’t do equal.
The ultimate, and irrefutable argument against feminism is simple demographics. When men stop being dominant and authoritarian women lose the instinct to breed – women subconsciously view egalitarian males as unworthy mates. Birth rates collapse and the race goes extinct. All the nations which have embraced feminism are demographically and culturally imploding and will soon join Dar Al-Islam.
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Correlation does not imply causation.
There are several other possible causes for a link between feminism and lower birth rates e.g societies in which feminism has been a successful movement have generally higher standards of health care, lower infant and child mortality rates and less dependence on hard manual labor. All of those things reduce the need to have children at above replacement rate. There's also generally better access to reliable methods of birth control and (safe) abortion as well, which will reduce the number of involuntary pregnancies.
And that's just a bunch of possible causes that occurred to me in 5 minutes.
"All the nations which have embraced feminism are demographically and culturally imploding and will soon join Dar Al-Islam."
"No great culture or civilization has ever valued equality, at least not as modern leftists conceive it, especially not equality between men and women."
And all those old great civilizations just so happen to have fallen in on themselves and died. What an incredible coincidence. It's almost like they didn't work in the long run or something. Weird.
TRANSLATION: When men can't force themselves upon women and women can decide for themselves when they are ready to bear children, they end up not having as many children as I, a man, want them to have.
Yeah, our birth rate is dropping like crazy. Only 7 billion people on the planet.
Oh, I see what you mean, not enough people of the correct skin color are breeding.
Actually, the reason most feminist countries have low birth rates is because they are also first world nations with low infant mortality rates. Children dying has become a horrible tragedy and not simply a fact of life as it is in less developed nations and in the West's past. We used to need to have 20 kids to ensure that some of them would survive and help us on our farms. In modernized countries where children rarely die (compared to those that live long and relatively healthy lives) where we work in office buildings instead of fields, we don't need 20 children or even 5. Coincidentally, most nations modern enough to afford low birth rates also happen to be enlightened and educated enough to embrace feminism.
What am I wasting my time for? By your logic the fact that Hitler ate sugar would mean that sugar caused the Holocaust. You can't argue with stupid like that.
How do you read a feminist? Do you mean body language, or what?
Women lose the instinct to breed? Last time I checked, it takes two to "tango". I'd rather say that when (some) men are supposed to pull their weight with diaper-changes, day-care pick-ups etc, THEY lose the instinct to breed.
Women "subconsciously" view men who treat them nicely as nice, strangely enough. If you pretend to be nice to them, just to get into their pants, they notice this and reject you, in favor of someone who actually see THEM, not just a walking vagina.
We're SEVEN EFFING BILLION human beings, stupid! The surest way we're going extinct is by using up all natural resources, pollute all the water and heat up the Earth so much that life is no longer sustainable here. Even if birth rates collapsed, it would take centuries until we're down to critically low numbers.
Many European nations have "embraced feminism", to some extent. Europe is still increasing its population, and its cultures are alive and kicking.
By your own, truly baffling logic - it hurts me to even use the word "logic" as a description for this mess - the very spread of feminism should have been impossible as women would have been compulsively running into the arms of self-important thugs in waves and breeding like jackrabbits instead of leaving you socially ostracized and miffed that you no longer hold automatic status above someone else.
You know what countries have the extremely high birth rates and strict social mores you desire?
All of the ones you and your racist, sexist, backwards little circlejerk hates. And they suffer immensely for it. What makes you think adopting the attitudes and practices of people you openly despise and consider inferior will somehow turn out better for you? Moreover what you think of as great empires all collapsed into dust under the weight of their own hubris without exception. That's twice you've expressed admiration for a losing strategy and three times your own arguments have backfired spectacularly.
Dumbasses like you love to say that equality doesn't exist in nature. You know what nature does better than anything else? It balances things out. Ecosystems survive because everything in them in one way or another depends on the existence of everything else within it. It's when you try to play king of the hill and tip all the power to one side at the expense of everything else (the idiot's interpretation of survival of the fittest) that the true natural order goes to shit.
Yet another site with bad latin for a name...
Occident isn't even a latin WORD. It ought to be Occidens. And then, Invicta is in the wrong gender (Ironically enough, the feminine gender), so it should be Occidens Invictus.
If you're going to be a fucking snob, at least snob correctly, otherwise you'll look like a complete and utter idiot. Not that you needed any help in that regard, of course, but at least it goes nicely with your completely fucking stupid argument.
God, nothing reminds me of why I hate leftists more than reading a feminist.
If thine eye offend thee...
@ #1695899
"How do you read a feminist?"
Braille. [Ba-dum-tissshhh]
Regards & all
Thomas L. Nielsen
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