America was founded on these principles. We all know the constitution doesn't say it or anything about God (it was understood so there was noneed) but I was explaining this to a student and he asked for a list of these principles. He asked what the principles were. I was able to give him a few like you shall not murder, you shall not steal, and having a good work ethic, but I couldn't come up with very many on the spot. And then he said that lots of people believe those things not just Jews and Christians.
So I need a good list to give him and he wants to know if they were listed or mentioned anywhere by the founding fathers. (Of course I told him to study the Bible if he wants all of them!)
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You spout random nonsense that is easily rebuked and then you go running to a forum asking for help... Please tell me that you calling this person a student doesn't mean you're a teacher because, if that's case, our educational system really is in bad shape.
You won't get a list because they don't exist. And laws against murder and theft existed long before Christianity.
But a good work ethic? Where is that in the Constitution? And when has that ever been a Christian principle? I'm not saying a good work ethic is a bad thing, but I've never seen it listed anywhere in any founding documents or in the bible.
"it was understood so there was noneed"
Forgive me, but I forget who pointed out before that a legal document wouldn't leave anything to be understood.
"We all know the constitution doesn't say it or anything about God (it was understood so there was noneed)"
Right, because legal documents are never specific about things because hey, everybody knows what it really means, right? Just because a contract doesn't say something, doesn't mean that it's not there.
By the way, when you signed your work contract, you were supposed to send me $100 every month. You were supposed to understand that. Am I going to have to sue to get my money?
Hang on, they let you teach?
As in, impressionable kids?
OUR KIDS?
Because as we all know the Constitution specifically holds Yahweh/Jehovah to be the one and only god, specifically prohibiting the worship of anyone else, or using his name in vain, or working on his holy day.
So if the U.S. being Christian is simply understood, and that's good enough for the Constitution, why do fundies get so bent out of shape when folks talk about good things and don't mention God? Isn't that supposed to be "understood"?
I'm pretty certain that if the founding fathers wanted our government to be founded on the christian religion they probably would have brough that up in the founding document. I mean these guys were pretty smart fellas...unlike Victor here.
Please tell me teaches CCD or at the YMCA or something...
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
-Thomas Jefferson
Historical Accuracy: 1
Way to go Chief. That's always the default answer isn't it: read/study the bible?
You don't read it yourself or understand it when you do and yet you bastards will still tell this child who's trying to expand his knowledge of the world to do so. You couldn't even give him an answer to his question. Hypocrites and Pharisees all!
If the constitution really was founded on the Ten Commandments, I'd be in jail several times over for coveting (a major asset to capitalism) and taking Gawd's name in vain, not to mention my inability to worship such a temper-tantrum throwing baby deity.
"Hammurabi, BITCH!"
Thank you, fmitchell ...that has good rhythmic resonance. I like.
@[b]Duraji, not even a baby, but an aborted fetus. --[ApocrJohn]
“doesn't say it or anything about God (it was understood so there was noneed)”
Bill of Rights.
The founding Fathers wanted a government that wouldn’t allow leaders to define treason on the spot, or allow religion to have power in the government, to unilaterally disarm the citizens, to bivouac troops in private homes, but they felt this was obvious. It’s not in the original. The population of the new country IMMEDIATELY demanded that limitations of the government be spelled out, and thus the first ten ammendments. Because they wantee everything spelled out.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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