Satan has us so deluded about death that we’ve decided it’s rude to tell the truth about it. Imagine if you piped up at a funeral and said: “You know that she’s probably in Hell, right? So instead of talking about how wonderful she was, let’s talk about how we can avoid ending up there ourselves.” Can you imagine the furious reaction you’d receive from the family? Do you see how effectively Satan has got us all stifling the truth? Talking about the truth is considered rude, inappropriate, and obnoxious. But treating death like a choose-your-own-ending situation? That’s considered polite and right. And while we sit around avoiding the H-word, more and more souls are refusing to see death as the terrifying thing that it is if you haven’t gotten right with your Creator
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*facedesks so hard that there's now a hole in the desk*
It never ceases to amaze and/or shock me how low these people can fall. Tell the grieving family that their deceased family member is now in hell? I mean, SERIOUSLY !
"On this site, we teach...." That word "teach" I don't think it means what you think it means. Unless you mean "We teach you how to be a mean-spirited, hypocritical, sociopath like me."
Yeah, it's you with the abusive daddy-God, and you want people to go to Hell, and you might be a doctor. If you are, I hope you lose your ticket, quick.
Imagine if you piped up at a funeral and said: “You know that she’s probably in Hell, right? So instead of talking about how wonderful she was, let’s talk about how we can avoid ending up there ourselves.”
Isn't God supposed to be the one to judge? Unless you're claiming to be God, how can you possibly know? So on top of that being an absolutely deplorable and psychotic thing to do to a grieving family, you're also committing blasphemy by doing God's job. In other words,according to your own holy book you're going to hell, asshole. Oh, that was easier than I thought. I guess there's no stifling the truth from me.
This, to me, proves that religion might be a neurological disorder. Or, at least, those who are likely to be religious are also likely to have a neurological disorder. These are the words of someone who can't comprehend basic aspects of the human condition, can't empathize with a family that has just lost a loved one, and thinks said family's natural reaction to such a tragic event is part of some supernatural conspiracy against their worldview. These are not the words of someone with a neurotypical mind.
I dunno. My creator made their game like a multiplayer Halo lobby. After I die, I get to to look at the after-game carnage report, and then chillax in the lobby waiting for the next game to start. Your vaguely creepy, hella abusive, murdering monster sky-daddy doesn't even rate as a bump in the road for me.
Provide hard, solid, physical empirical Peer Reviewed proof to the satisfaction of we Atheists that the so-called 'Soul' exists first, then we'll talk.
Next time there's a rain shower in your locale, and the sun comes out, are you going to deny what all other people there can see : a Rainbow? For something that doesn't actually physically exist, you're gonna have a hard time convincing others of a scientifically proven & easily explainable phenomenon which utterly destroys the whole concept of the so-called 'Spiritual'/'Supernatural'.
Realising that you're gonna end up like we Atheists; exactly like leftover pizza: cold, clotted and stuck to the bottom of a box is the very thing that terrifies you fundies, thus your comforting psychological 'security blankie' that is the 'Afterlife'. But unlike that non existent but seen rainbow, an un seen & therefore un proven delusion.
'Faith'. Sounds just like FAIL. And you cannot spell 'Belief' without the word LIE . Do you see how effectively your 'God has got all of you stifling Reality ?
The concept of the so-called 'Soul'? Just two words uttely annihilates that, just as easily as that non existent rainbow obliterates your 'Belie fs' based on the FAIL that is 'Faith': Prove it. [/1 Thessalonians 5:21 (KJV) ]
We normal people have something called "empathy", which makes us not wanting to hurt other people if we can avoid it. THAT is why we talk about how wonderful the deceased person was; because his or her relatives are probably devastated by the loss.
If you think it such a great idea, Anna, we can go to YOUR funeral and tell all YOUR relatives that you're in Hell. Which, judging by all the judging you do, you'd probably be, if Hell exist, that is.
If Satan makes us behave decently to people in mourning, that means he's the GOOD guy, dumbass!
I think the afterlife will be the same as the before-life; billions and billions of years or non-existence. Since I became unconscious from epilepsy the first time, I'm not afraid of death any more. I still don't want it to happen for decades, as I think this is IT; the one chance at life we get, and I want as much of IT as possible.
I dunno. My creator made their game like a multiplayer Halo lobby. After I die, I get to to look at the after-game carnage report, and then chillax in the lobby waiting for the next game to start. Your vaguely creepy, hella abusive, murdering monster sky-daddy doesn't even rate as a bump in the road for me.
And when someone tells you that you are not so magically special that God will ensure that you are one of a very select few to enjoy a perpetual sadist show at His side in heaven?
Your system of belief isn't that God loves and has saved you or that anyone ever actually gets saved from anything, it's that you are better than everyone else and must be glorified. I'm pretty sure glorifying yourself is a sin by your own standards.
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And yet bereaved people all over the world turn to ministers of religion for empathy, support and comfort in their grief and distress. And empathy, support and comfort, not insensitive grandstanding, is what the virtually all of them receive. Indeed, most ministers of religion are trained to deal with just such situations. If most religious people acted like Anna Diehl, you might have a point. But they don't; far from it. Anna Diehl might not be neurotypical, but that is Anna Diehl, not every religious person. As for damning all religious people as being subject to a "neurological disorder" because of the reaction of a single, highly atypical person, you might want to look up the definition of "fundie" on FSTDT's FAQ.
Yeah, you'd be yelled at, spat on and probably physically attacked and you'd deserve it. You don't add misery to a grieving family. This is why Fundamentalism is dangerous and damaging because it robs people of any empathy.
"let’s talk about how we can avoid ending up there ourselves"
Because funerals aren't about commemorating the lives of the deceased, they're about converting people to your religion.
So you want me to show up at yours and tell your family the truth? As in that heaven, hell, all of it are just a bunch of crap myths that there's no evidence for, and you're not going anyplace nice, you're just dead and will turn into worm food? And that they'll never see you again? You mean tell them the REAL truth?
Are you ok with that?
Well, let's say you jump up during a funeral and announce this idea, and a daughter of the deceased punches you in the mouth, and as you go down, she punches you in the throat. OK?
No, nothing more, just something to smile about.
"Talking about the truth is considered rude, inappropriate, and obnoxious."
But you're not talking about truth, hwoever, you're talking instead about belief. They aren't the same thing at all.
And yes, in this circumstance stating your wholly unsupported belief that the desceased is 'probably in Hell' is not only considered but factually rude, inappropriate and obnoxious.
Even back in the days of Medieval Europe, the priest wasn't even likely to be insulting at a person's funeral. As a general rule it's considered poor to speak ill of the dead unless they were really that shitty of a person. Like everyone universally agreed they were awful people. You know what...
Anna Diehl, if you weren't so insane I'm worried about you, I think you would qualify.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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