Studying in this school is not essential; so long as a woman can read and write and knows the teachings of her religion, that is sufficient, because she was created for that, i.e., to worship Allaah. Anything beyond that is not essential.
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And the man is made for what exactly?, to blaspheme Allah?. And if that's so evident, why is it supressed by a social convention, not a natural one?
This is exactly the kind of wooly-minded liberal thinking i've come to expect from Islam. There's no need for women to read or write. In fact, there's no need for women at all. All we need is a warehouse of disembodied uteri connected to blood and oxygen supplies. We can train donkeys to do the cooking and cleaning.
A lot of people settle for just worshipping Allah, but the really cool people go above and beyond into the realm of like, working, and like, helping society move forward and stuff.
Here's another quote from the same post:
"Undoubtedly allowing women to mix freely with men is the basis of all evils. This is one of the greatest causes of punishment coming down upon everyone and of public and private affairs becoming corrupt. Free mixing of men and women is the cause of much immorality and adultery, and it is the cause of general doom and diseases."
I'm trying to remember how old we were when we thought that girls had coodies -- maybe around six or seven years of age -- so it's odd so see a whole religion that apparently never grew beyond that point. Not that fundie xtians are much different. I suppose it's heartening to see that fundamentalism can cross the cultural divide and unite assholes no matter what cultural black hole they crawled from, but I'd be much happier if the general reaction to fundies of all stripe were laughter and ridicule instead of respect.
Muslim drone: "Help! My life's not going the way I want it to!"
Other Muslim drone: "Uhh, worship harder!"
Studying in this school is not essential; so long as a woman can read and write and knows the teachings of her religion, that is sufficient, because she was created for that, i.e., to worship Allaah. Anything beyond that is not essential.
I seriously hope for your sake, that god doesn't turn out to be a woman.
@cyborgtroy: Maybe all the misogynists secretly have small penises.
I would like to point out that this does not mean all people with small penises are misogynists, for the sake of myself and my microphallic brethren.
I thought religions ascribe that purpose to men while the women are there so man has time to worship instead of cooking and cleaning or something like that?
Though I still don't get why the hell a deity would create complex stuff just for worshipping, does he have some kind of ego problem that needs billions of worshippers? Seriously, what kind of gain would an omnipotent being have from being worshipped by a bunch of inferior creatures and why would he make them capable of questioning the need to worship or worshipping other things? Either that creator didn't intend for people to worship him or he's incompetent.
Option C is of course that "religion" is some kind of videogame for omnipotent entities where the guy who gets the most followers wins...
Often one tries to answer fundie comments intelligently, but here I'll stick to "Oh, shut up, you sad old wanker."
So cooking, cleaning, birthing brats and general slavery are out, then? Woohoo! Also, learned women will notice your beliefs are nothing but a shaky crutch for misogynists with inferiority complexes. Oh, fundies of all stripes so alike.
Mr. Shaykh (shake?) just shot himself in the foot.
A. Wouldn't school be a great place for women to learn to read and write?
B. Who are you, or anyone else for that matter, to proclaim why women, or any particular woman, were created?
STFU and move into the modern age.
I can't be bothered to read, but I assume he's talking about the new co-ed American-style prep school in Jordan. Now places like that in the US are considered incredibly pretentious (think the "public" schools of the UK), but the very idea of such a place is revolutionary in the Middle East and is a huge step forward, and I hope it's successful in both Jordan and many other countries.
In any case, the truth of the matter is that as much as hardline Islam shits on women, "all you need to be able to do is obey" is pretty much the standard creed of almost all orthodox religion, for all of its adherents, male or female. It does make one weep for what Islam could have been.
Brian X wrote:
"I can't be bothered to read, but I assume he's talking about the new co-ed American-style prep school in Jordan. Now places like that in the US are considered incredibly pretentious (think the "public" schools of the UK), but the very idea of such a place is revolutionary in the Middle East and is a huge step forward, and I hope it's successful in both Jordan and many other countries."
Not THAT revolutionary. Women were permitted to study at the University of Baghdad.
That is to say, before a certain Fundamentalist in the White House bombed them into the dark ages.
I wanna know what happened to the islamic civilization.
It used to be glorious, now all islamic countries are disgusting shitbags.
Oh yeah the fundies go control.
I wanna know what happened to the islamic civilization.
It used to be glorious, now all islamic countries are disgusting shitbags.
Oh yeah the fundies go control.
A warning to the U.S. about our evil fundies.
"Evil Fundies"; isn't thbat redundant?
Shaykh Muhammad Salih al-Munajjid: Shafaqat, I forbid you to go to that school!
Shafaqat: Why, Father?
SMSAM: Because everything you need to know, you can learn at home!
Shafaqat: Why?
SMSAM: Because you're female and that's bad!
Shafaqat: Why?
SMSAM: Because you have cooties! Now shut up and go put your burka on, so that you won't contaminate me!
He's not saying that a woman should not or does not need to know how to read or write. READ IT!!! He says that STUDYING (working to constantly and permanently instill certain information in your brain) is not essential, but it IS SUFFICIENT that a woman can at least read and write, and a woman's purpose, just as a man's purpose in ISLAM is to serve ALLAH. He is saying that anything beyond being educated and worshiping ALLAH is not a neccessity because that is a MUSLIM's purpose in life. If you are not muslim you would not understand this, therefore it is only pure ignorance that you reply negatively about this without having that knowledge and understanding.
Translation: Keep 'em just smart enough to write down the grocery list so that they will be dependant on the men in their life, and have no way to survive on their own. That way we can treat them as slaves, and there's nothing they can do about it!
For Allah, of course.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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