I really have nothing against liberals as people; most are good people whom mean well. The problem is their love of an oppressive all-powerful federal government and their obedience to their ruling lunatic fringe. If they regain power we will have to reform our militias and bury some of our guns. Participating in a militia is a lot trouble, but it will have to be done, and burying guns is dangerous, they could always be found by children. And we may even have to kill some liberals. I don’t want to do any of the things especially kill people and especially my own countrymen.
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And we may even have to kill some liberals.
Uh oh.......
Unfortunately, there are those on the left and right in the US that want a more oppressive federal government.
On the left they are liberals, and on the right they are Neo-cons (bush/cheney/hannity, etc).
They're trying to make america forget that there used to be a choice.
However, I doubt crazy militia-men will be fighting liberals. More likely police/national guard.
Obedience to their ruling lunatic fringe?, talk for you, the one who is advocating killing people and participating in militiae, let alone the fact that USING THEM is more likely to kill children than bury them.
As I tell the people who call from the NRA trying to get me to rejoin(formerly National Rifle Association, Currently National Republican Association who sold all us gun owners out for their political profit), freedomboy3, you are either a fucking braindead idiot or a lying GOP asslick toadie trying to mislead gun owners. The Bradys, Clintons, and every liberal that ever lived has done nothing close to threatening your gun ownership like your current buddies, the Presidunce in the White House and John Asshole, excuse Ashcroft with their goddamn Nazi "Patriot Act"! That act would allow them to declare a national emergency and seize all our guns at their WHIM, just like the Nazis did in Germany. And don't claim that these guy's would never violate American freedoms that way, look at how many illegal wiretaps with NO VALUE to "National Security" they have been caught in. This far and away the most oppressive government that this country has ever seen. So quit your lying or else educate yourself to the truth of the threat of our current administration run amok.PS Contrary to GOP and fundie right-wing propaganda lots of liberals I know do have guns(and know how to use them). Dumb idea to threaten them, especially with those gunclubs for paranoids and racists you call militias.
Um...yeah...freedomboy? Um...ever notice how the people who, y'know, commit to freedom from oppression, hierarchy, etc. -- whether from governmental or non-governmental sources -- get called extreme leftists ? Yeah, you might want to reframe your whole "liberals support more control, conservatives support less" structure.
I think that the same discourse but changing names should be applied to you. You admit belonging to something which is immoral. Besides, they're not putting you a gun in the neck to kill anybody(no pun intended). If you don't want to kill, DON'T DO IT.
"I really have nothing against liberals as people; most are good people whom mean well. The problem is their love of an oppressive all-powerful federal government and their obedience to their ruling lunatic fringe. If they regain power we will have to reform our militias and bury some of our guns."
Stop! The irony is already too much. I cannot possibly continue reading.
I really have nothing against liberals as people; most are good people whom mean well.
But that doesn't stop you from wanting to round up a posse, grabbing an SA80 and lining a few liberals up against a wall to be shot?
And you really have nothing against liberals?
"The problem is their love of an oppressive all-powerful federal government and their obedience to their ruling lunatic fringe."
Perhaps this "freedomboy3" is so far over to the right that he thinks G.W. Bush and company ARE liberals. That's the only way this passage makes any kind of sense (twisted though even that sense would be). One wonders whom he would consider a conservative -- Caligula, perhaps?
Fanatic-Templar, Jason: There are many kinds of fundies. This one is an example of the political fundie, as opposed to the religious variety. This site is an egalitarian mocker of all sorts of fundies.
This is more CTSTDT type stuff, but this person is comically idiotic no matter where he's submitted. This is a conspiracy theorist, a sterotypist(?), and an absolute idiot all in one package.
I believe that a liberal dominated government was talked about in the Bible. It is in the Book of Revelations about a one-world socialist government based in the Revised Roman Empire. I know that when Jesus comes back, he will save the world from its decadent decline and my beloved Texas pastureland will be free of undesirables.
Boy, for a (supposedly) God Fearing American you don't know much about Christianity! Jesus was a liberal, teaching a new religion. The pharisees were the conservatives, trying to maintain the status quo! Maybe you try reading the non-fundie parts of the Bible! The Roman empire was socialist? An oligarchy masquerading as a republic maybe at times, a dictatorship definitely at times, a mob driven anarchy, yes, but a socialist government, NO!!!! What to hell history books are you reading?
I don't think these "liberals" you speak of trust the federal government implicitly. I do, however, think that many of your fellow compatriots trust their pastors and right-wing talk show hosts implicitly.
I know that when Jesus comes back, he will save the world from its decadent decline
That's what the apocalyptics of the first century thought, too. They were waiting for a Messiah to save the Jews from foreign domination and they were sure the time was right around the corner.
That's what Revelation is about, not the 21st century US.
Yeah, and if the extreme conservatives take power, they'll be preventing people from marrying one another, teaching pseudoscience to our children, and forcing every woman to carry a pregnancy to term. But apparently that isn't all-oppressive.
What kind of liberals, per se? Economic or social liberals?
I do respect you for not shooting me. That shows tolerance on your part.
I believe that a liberal dominated government was talked about in the Bible. It is in the Book of Revelations about a one-world socialist government based in the Revised Roman Empire. I know that when Jesus comes back, he will save the world from its decadent decline and my beloved Texas pastureland will be free of undesirables.
Not really up on our current events, are we?
If you don't want to form militias, bury guns, endanger the lives of children and kill liberals, THEN DON'T DO IT!
I really have nothing against liberals as people; most are good people whom mean well. The problem is their love of an oppressive all-powerful federal government and their obedience to their ruling lunatic fringe.
Hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but the current regime in office aka Bush administration has done more to subvert and destroy Constitutional Law, and the Bill of Rights. They are the ones being 'oppressive all-powerful federal government'.
Really, you should try to keep up with reality.
For those who are implying that fundamentalism is strictly a Christianity/religious thing, it is not. Even though the poster doesn't mention Jebus, Gawd, or any other religious figure/concept/what have you, it can still be a fundie.
"strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives. "
Liberals are the ones who will defend you no matter how unpleasant you are if you are being persecuted by bad law or opinions.
Liberals er the ones who get hauled off to imprisonment for what they think is right rather than expedient.
Liberals ask the questions overweening governments want to avoid.
Liberals don't want big government except as a means to enable people to maximise freedom and happiness.
Liberals DON'T want to interfere with people except to stop them interfering with other people.
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Are you talking about wiretapping without warrents? Creationist politicians? If so you're focused on the wrong group . . .
God fearing idiot, start fearing God and common sense, because you don't know what you're talking about. Roman Empire Socialist?, my history teacher is still laughing, let alone the fact that socialist, for the time, was Jesus.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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