Well antichristsuperstar [pun of username "AnarchistSuperstar"] what would you say to the thousands of people who have reported and seen what they called supernatural events. What would yos say to people who have witnessed what they believe to be miraculous events. What would you say to me who experienced a direct revelation of GOD? Indeed God directly revealed His existence to me. What would you say to me?
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Been there, done that. At one time I toothought that God had spoken to me, but over time I had to admit that there is such a thing as the mind talking back to itself, saying the things that you want to hear. As for the rest, people misinterpret things all the time.
I guess the first question would be about set and setting: most "supernatural phenomenon" occur when one is in bed, sleeping or nearly asleep, or while under duress, or on drugs.
I would also ask about the particulars. A voice in your head or a lucky break is unimpressive. An encyclopedia set levitating in front of two dozen witnesses would require explanation.
Finally, if God is willing to show himself in this way, I would ask Him why he doesn't show himself to everyone. If all I have ever seen are natural phenomenon, whose fault is it I wind up an atheist?
I'd say: What were you/they drinking at the time?
If you can indeed prove the existence of God, you'd be famous, not to mention immensely rich. As I have heard nothing about this before, I guess you can't.
Give us some verifiable proof. I think that most people would like to have real evidence for the existence of ghosts. Just think; if ghosts could be proven to exist, then we'd know that there really is life after death. I'd like to believe. But wanting something and having evidence are two different things.
Can't argue with that, it's true that thousands of people have reported supernatural events or divine experiences, and for the most part are sincere.
But many of these reports contradict others, people don't see the same afterlife in NDEs, nor all hear the voice of the same god, etc. So however sincere they may be in relating their experiences, at least some of them have been deceived, probably by their own minds. But if some of these experiences are just delusions, then we have good reason to reject all of them as such unless additional evidence for their accuracy can be provided.
Jagdflieger's experience isn't evidence of God, since we require just as much evidence to separate revelation from delusion to begin with, leaving us no better off.
It's no different to claiming to know there's life on the planet Kepler-22b because "a little bird told me."
I would say that extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence. If "thousands" of people, including yourself, have had extra-ordinary experiences but NONE of them have any evidence to share, I am justified in concluding that none of them have truly had extra-ordinary experiences.
In short jagdflieger, your credibility is as weak as His-4-life's.
“Indeed God directly revealed His existence to me. What would you say to me?”
I would ask if there’s anything you can show to me to prove it wasn’t sourced entirely in your head?
You hallucinating makes a lot more sense than a god that reveals his self to some but not all of his children.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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