Ehh... God didnt kill any dinosaurs. There is no scientific reason as to why the dinosaurs died. Its all 'maybes' and 'probablys' but the bible explains it perfectly and it fits in perfectly. Dinosaurs have massive lungs and small nostrils. But before the flood. Water was above earth, so twice the air pressure, meaning much faster skin healing time and easier to breathe. After the flood. Dinosaurs couldn't cope. Struggling for breath they bred in vain. producing only small lizards which lived much shorter times (because of lack of oxygen) and thus, the dinosaurs died out.
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And the fundies say that evolution is a crackpot theory without any empirical proof...
I'm sorry, but you can't just make shit up, say, "Hey, that makes sense to me!" and proclaim it to be truth.
I'll skip through some of the stupid and start where it gets uniquely insane:
But before the flood.
How is that a sentence? It is a tail and you used it as a lead out.
Water was above earth,
So you're saying we're still flooded to 15 cubits above the highest mountain tops?
so twice the air pressure,
Really? Twice hey! Do you have your calculations for that? In hectopascals please, including how many thousand percent of humidity that would be! Also explain why a supersaturated solution would avoid the condensation through coolness or nucleation that currently occurs in the precipitation cycle. i.e. why didn't it rain until then when it would've been impossible not to. Also to help you out here, you're talking about a billion cubic kilometres of water required, which at 1 atmosphere and 25 degrees celcius will be 1200 times larger as a gas, and will increase the air pressure by hundreds of atmospheres...
meaning much faster skin healing time
Much faster hey, are you sure you don't mean very slightly faster? Why is that? You might want to look into the reasons behind that.
and easier to breathe
Actually extreme humidity makes it harder to breathe you twat and large cavernous lungs and small nostrils would make condensation more likely, partially drowning them.
After the flood
What, the one that never happened?
Dinosaurs couldn't cope.
They got depressed and started medicating their kids did they, or inventing imaginary friends to make them feel better about themselves?
Struggling for breath they bred in vain.
Oh dear, oh dear of deary me!
producing only small lizards which lived much shorter times (because of lack of oxygen)
OK, one day you really should open an actual book with actual evidence that explains that dinosaurs aren't lizards and vice versa. Please also explain the effect of oxygen enrichment upon inhibiting cell apoptosis!
Time for fundy lessons.
Before the flood there was a water canopy above the atmosphere. This
kept the earths temperature constant,
no highs or lows, no polar ice caps or
tropical heat.
It blocked radiation from space so there were no mutations. This allowed
living things to live many times longer than they do now.
There were no oceans or mountains (only high hills).
The flood water was supplied in part by
this water canopy falling down as rain.
All the flood water is still here, in the ocean basins.
A fairly intelligent friend of mine actually had bought into some of this "canopy theory" (heck, one of my elementary school teachers actually promoted it as fact, too!), and I directed him to some scientific articles that explain how it doesn't hold up. He hasn't mentioned it since.
The problem is that many people don't have the scientific acumen to immediately recognize how bogus it is, because it's couched in scientific terms (referring to air pressure effects, reflection of radiation, and so on).
The simple fact that ALL geological evidence (along with chemistry and physics) disproves it should have caused it to die long ago, but fundies continue to keep this brain-dead theory on life support.
I also find it hilarious that ArgoFett doesn't consider this scenario to count as "God killing off the dinosaurs"; he still credits God with every thing that happens in this scenario, but strangely considers the dinosaurs' consequential deaths to be "natural" -- as if NO OTHER creatures would need any divine changes to adapt to half the air pressure they'd had before, along with the rest of the changes. But I'm guessing that ArgoFett likes dinosaurs and would hate to think that his God would have been so mean as to kill them, so he insulates his mind against that thought.
~David D.G.
Now its time for more fundy lessons.
The institute for creationist research got their hands on a climate modelling program and a 286 computer to run it
(this was a while ago, but even then the 286 was obsolete).
They put their water canopy up over the earth, and the surface temp very quickly rose to just below 100C.
But at least the temperature was uniform over the whole Earth.
Next, lets drop the water canopy on the surface so Noah can have his rainstorm.
Dropping an object with the mass of the ocean from a height of say 100 miles to the surface of the Earth
will release a decent amount of energy.
Like, enough to turn the water into superheated steam. Noah didn't need an ark, he needed a spaceship to get off
the planet and wait for the steam to condense.
And Nicole, they get this crap from the bible. Read the story of Noahs ark,
you will see where the water previously up in the sky falls down
and the water previously underground
shoots up.
You know something Argo, I am pretty sure that this shit is not in the bible. In fact, I have probably read more of the bible then you have. Why don't people like you try to actually learn something about your own fucking religion before shoving down other people's throats?
And Nicole, they get this crap from the bible. Read the story of Noahs ark, you will see where the water previously up in the sky falls down and the water previously underground shoots up.
Also, read Genesis 1:6-10 :
6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morningthe second day.
9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
Hebrew cosmology posits a flat Earth covered by a transparent dome called "the Vault of Heaven." Above this dome is water. This is why the sky looks blue during the day -- everyone who owns a swimming pool knows that if you turn on the pool light at night the water will look light blue. It also explains where rain comes from (God opens little windows in the Vault of Heaven to let some of the water fall through).
There's also a second, opaque dome sitting on top of the "waters above". The stars are affixed to the bottom of this 2nd dome. God's throne sits dead-center on the top of this 2nd dome.
For further information on the Biblical model of the Earth, see http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/febible.htm .
Water developes about a half a psi per vertical foot, so there would have been a hell of a lot more than twice the pressure. This would not have affected the oxygen level, but as soon as it rained, every living thing would explode or instantly form fatal embolisms. The fossil record does not support this. He also assumes that somehow the surface tension of water was higher than that of, well, ANYTHING, for the shell to remain intact until it finally rained down, at which point the surface tension reverted back to normal for drops to form. Small nostrils? What about their huge mouths?
But then a man coming back to life and telling us what to do telepathically from outer space makes just as much sense.
Julian: Well, sure, but that was hundreds of millions of years before even microbes and algae appeared. That "canopy" of steam had long since condensed out into rain and filled the oceans (and thus cleared the skies) looooooong before anything even living existed, let alone before any biblical-era person was around to try to build a zooboat.
~David D.G.
There is no evidence that the Earth has ever at one point been entiely covered in water. There is evidence that the Earth was hit by a meteor 65 million years ago. It's called the K-T Boundary, it's a thin line of iridium, an element almost inexistant on Earth but common in meteor, that seperates the Cretaceous from the Teritary periods. That and the huge fucking crater off the coast of Mexico.
Confused?
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