I do not personally recommend “The Princess and the Frog.” Practicing any sort of occultic magic is directly against God and is labeled as an abomination throughout Scripture. This movie displays that voodoo magicians hold all the power of both good and evil. A PG rating would have been more appropriate; I strongly advise that younger, undiscerning children not be allowed to see it. For older children, however, “The Princess and the Frog” might serve as an platform for parents to discuss with their children the real existence of occult practices and how to identify them.
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Why are fundies so obsessed with the occult?
Sounds prety familar doesn't it?
Remember, people, a story about a woman talking to a frog is evil & satanic, but a story about a snake talking to a woman is perfectly acceptable.
@Brenz
I've not seen the movie so I may well be wrong, but I was under the impression that there's a good character in the movie who is also a voodoo priestess. A kind of 'fairy godmother' analogy. Mind you, this character is still FICTIONAL as are all the others in the movie so that renders Thaisha's possible point moot.
Practicing any sort of occultic magic is directly against God and is labeled as an abomination throughout Scripture
Remember to say your incantations.. er, I mean prayers tonight.
Do these people ever pull their heads out of their rears and just have fun? Ever? Or are they really like this 24/7... "We must defer to the Wholly Babble to determine whether or not we can derive enjoyment from this movie/book/whatever."
How the frick can you be a human being without some kind of imagination or fantasy life?
Well, you might as well not recommend every OTHER Disney movie that has magic in it, like Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, etc. Not that they have morals or entertainment value at all, no siree.
“The Princess and the Frog” might serve as an platform for parents to discuss with their children the real existence of occult practices and how to identify them."
You can easily identify them by the singing animals.
I took my kids, ages 5 and 3, to see the movie. They both loved it. For a few songs, they stood up and danced. Neither of them asked, or even cared, about the voodoo.
While we're on the topic of Disney cartoons, I wonder what this person thought of Hunchback of Notre Dame. The bad guy there holds many of the same beliefs as Christian fundies...
I went with my fiancee when we where watching her cousins kids, aged 4 and 6, and they knew it was a movie. Just because New Orleans is a real city and frogs are real, doesn't mean that the movie is real.
I actually kinda agree here. This kind of concept (either the Christian god or the "occult" is something for older children to discuss with their parents, not something to give to children in general as something to watch.
I also think that the bible/bible stories for little children is something little children shouldn't be exposed to either, however.
@Marc: I seriously doubt that kids are going to notice. When I saw "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" for the first time, I really had no idea what Frollo was singing about during his whole "Hellfire" sequence and I doubt that many kids back then did, either. I certainly didn't know or realize that he was lusting after Esmeralda. People often blame Disney for smuggling in adult concepts into kids' movies, but you know what? Most of the time, kids don't even notice them.
Why can't kids watch something with magic and voodoo? Why can't they be exposed to other cultures and lifestyles? Having kids watch something that doesn't have the usual Judeo-Christian "God = heaven = good vs. Devil = hell = bad" dichotomy isn't the end of the world.
@Marc: MOST children's stories have some kind of magic in them. Maybe not things like voodoo which are practiced by people in real life, but the kind of voodoo in PatF isn't really practiced either, so it's splitting hairs at that point.
Actual religion can and should be saved until a kid's older (a point that fundies need to see more than anyone else), but I don't see anything wrong with fantasy-magic, since it's so obviously NOT the same thing as real-life Wicca/voodoo/etc.
If you think a Disney movie will shake kids beliefs in your God that much, then, well, you give them far too little credit.
Even though voodoo is shown to be used by an evil character for evil purposes, Christians still rally against it.
God damn it's fucking impossible to please you isn't it.
(LadyJafaria)
If it were, there'd be hardly any religion at all (of any
@Rat of Steel: I don't believe that. There are people who've converted from one religion to another in adulthood. There are people not raised with a religion who've joined one in adulthood. And I think it would do those people a disservice to say that they were just more childish and susceptible to propaganda.
Brainwashing from an early age is only necessary for the kind of unquestioning unchanging pod-person belief fundies want. I don't think it's necessary for belief in general.
^^^there are people not raised with a religion who've joined one in adulthood. And I think it would do those people a disservice to say that they were just more childish and susceptible to propaganda.
It's a movie based on an ancient fairy tale!
And uhm.. occult magic is prohibited?
What about Necromancy? you know: raising the dead?
Need I do all the Schools of Magic(tm) or are you getting the hint?
Er... the occult doesn't exist. Magic doesn't exist. Yours, Vishnu's, Allah's, Zattana's.... There is no real magic.
Honestly if you think magic is real you really should just turn in your rights as an adult.
"I do not personally recommend “The Princess and the Frog.” Practicing any sort of occultic magic is directly against God and is labeled as an abomination throughout Scripture."
Or is it, as Ali G would say, 'Cos she is black?'
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I was a gamer back when Bard was a prestige class, if you wanna talk about old-school. *grins*
Wonder if there was this much of a fit over Cinderella, or Sleeping Beauty?
Seems to me most Disney Movies have someone practicing magic in them.
Oddly enough, I'd still like to hear his opinion on the 'Night on Bald Mountain' part of Fantasia. Namely the part where Chernabog appears.
This isn't anywhere as stupid as David J. Stewart's rant about Disney though.
What makes stuff even more funny, that we had retards like these protesting against "Kiki's Delivery Service".
Japanese witches =/= Western Witches.
Confused?
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