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[...] Is a husband, pinning his wife down to have sex with her rape? What defines rape in a marriage?

When she says, "No."?

See, even then, I have a problem with it. A wife and husband are to give to each other of this. If a man is pinning her down, yet lovingly trying to... ehh it's too "grey". I hate it. It's of Satan,and the liberals are holding hands with Satan on this one.. destroy marriage with "rights" and villifying your spouse. Satanswants to break down the church and marriage. He wants us to think we don't need God, or each other....

The notion of marital rape. It's almost an oxymoron. It actually sounds like a litigous term used by 3rd Reich Femi-Nazi Women's Lib Czar's who hate God, burn flags, don't eat meat, and glorify same sex sexual relationships.

Disgusting.

Yes, it would be insensitive and unloving for a man to force his wife to do something sexual. If he took a gun or another inanimate object out and threatened her life, or her health, yes, that could be seen as rape. Yet, if he was aggressive in order to persuade her, I could see that as a wonderful thing. Wonderful? YES.. because that could be the answer to some dynamic in thier relationship. [...]

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old comment by KatAutumn

I gathered the following things from this submission:

1. There is apparently a way to "lovingly" pin your wife down and exact your "rightful vagina ownership" on her.

2. Marital Rape is a concept invented by Satan and liberals.

3. If you are married, you cannot be raped.

4. Holding a gun to your wife's head and forcing her to have sex = "could" be seen as rape (not that it is, but that it could be seen as rape.) Forcing your wife to have sex with you using your bare hands to hold her down = a wonderful thing.

5. Aggression towards your wife is the newest method of "persuasion".

I wonder how many women have been permanently traumatized due to this sick fuck's brand of "persuasion".

old comment by OhHolyHell

"Yes, it would be insensitive and unloving for a man to force his wife to do something sexual. If he took a gun or another inanimate object out and threatened her life, or her health, yes, that could be seen as rape. Yet, if he was aggressive in order to persuade her, I could see that as a wonderful thing. Wonderful? YES.."

It would be wonderful if I could freaking cut this asshole's nuts off this very moment. Seriously.

If a woman isn't aroused (wet) and her husband forcibly penetrates her, it is PAINFUL. Humiliating. Unfortunate. Usually accompanied with debasing commentary that makes her feel like an object, like her own feelings about sex don't matter.

And this man is one of those men. He's a few steps away from being the sort of man that can find justifications for pedophilia.

old comment by TB Tabby

Is a husband, pinning his wife down to have sex with her rape? What defines rape in a marriage?

When she says, "No."?

That depends: are you taking no for an answer? If not, then yes, it is rape.

See, even then, I have a problem with it. A wife and husband are to give to each other of this.

Rape is TAKING, not giving. This is roughly on par with people who say "I'm not stealing, I'm just borrowing."

If a man is pinning her down, yet lovingly trying to...ehh it's too "grey". I hate it.

If he's pinning her down, he's not doing anything lovingly. Show me someone who says a situation like that is remotely "grey," and I'll show you an empathy-impaired rape apologist.

It's of Satan,and the liberals are holding hands with Satan on this one.. destroy marriage with "rights" and villifying your spouse.

Satan is against rape and in favor if punishing rapists? How is he the evil one again?

And if marriage is all about women being forced to give up autonomy over their own bodies, the one thing in this world we can truly call our own, then it SHOULD be destroyed. "It's always been that way" is not a good enough reason to leave it that way.

The notion of marital rape. It's almost an oxymoron.

If by "almost" you mean "not." Sex - informed consent = rape. End of story. Marriage doesn't enter into it.

old comment by TB Tabby

It actually sounds like a litigous term used by 3rd Reich Femi-Nazi Women's Lib Czar's who hate God, burn flags, don't eat meat, and glorify same sex sexual relationships.

This line gives me hope that you're a Poe. Otherwise, you're just...just...

Disgusting.

Yes, that's the word I was looking for.

Yes, it would be insensitive and unloving for a man to force his wife to do something sexual.

It almost sounds like he's being reasonable with this sentence. But wait...

If he took a gun or another inanimate object out and threatened her life, or her health, yes, that could be seen as rape. Yet, if he was aggressive in order to persuade her, I could see that as a wonderful thing.

Persuasion does not involve physical force. It involves carefully constructed arguments. When you grab a woman, throw her onto a bed and forcibly copulate with her while she struggles and screams, you are not being persuasive, you are being a monster.

Wonderful? YES.. because that could be the answer to some dynamic in thier relationship.

The WRONG answer. If the only way you can think of to add spice to your relationship is through rape, you should really think about seeing other people...people with badges.

If you can't see a woman as anything other than a sex object, you really shouldn't be marrying her. You don't build a long-term relationship on sex alone. If sex on demand is all you want, go find a hooker.