Ray Comfort #fundie

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“Ray, may I ask a serious question. I'm an atheist who believes whole-heartedly that evolution is occurring all around us... But, is it possible that creationism lead to evolution-ism?” Matt Miller

Jesus said, "In the beginning God made them male and female." God made man in His image (as a moral creation) as male and female, reproducing after their own kind. These two things are observable and testable.

However, evolution believes that male and female in 1.4 different kinds of animals, birds, fish and insects just happened. It was unplanned, a coincidence, an accident, or just fate. That belief is intellectual suicide. BTW. Adaptation (not Darwinian evolution) is occurring all the time. See www.evolutionVsGod.com for details of the confusion of most believers in evolution.

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old comment by dionysus

It was unplanned, a coincidence, an accident, or just fate. That belief is intellectual suicide.

He's asking if it's possible that both creation led to evolution, aka he's asking if theistic evolution (which involves a plan) is possible in your mind. Way to miss the point of the question.

God made man in His image (as a moral creation)

Clearly we're made in his image. We commit genocide and slavery just like God does. I'm not sure I'D call that moral but if your standard of morality is "being like God", then I suppose you have a point.

Adaptation (not Darwinian evolution) is occurring all the time

You're half right. Adaptation IS happening all the time. Unfortunately for you, there is no limit on how many changes can accumulate given a completely open-ended time frame for them to occur in (although there is a limit on how many changes can occur between generations). And the only limit on what can change is the population's ability to survive with that change. Given that there is no restriction on overall scope or location in the DNA in which changes can happen, which means evolution becomes inevitable. Just as stacking pebbles for millions of years will eventually result in a mountain.

old comment by Swede

Shouldn’t a question end with a question mark?

Pst, Ray, your ventriloquism is showing, and your atheist sock-puppet sounds like an eight-year-old.

Evolution believes nothing of the sort, stupid. Mostly because evolution is a natural process and isn’t able to believe anything. Male and female happened before all those species evolved, silly. It just happened, sure, but as it has quite a lot of benefits, it stayed, which is very far from accident or coincidence. "Fate" is a stupid thing that is almost exclusively found in religious people. Adaptation IS Darwinian evolution, stupid, or rather; it began as Darwinian evolution. Once Lamarckian evolution was debunked, it's just called evolution.

See any real scientific journal or web-site for the confusion about evolution in most believers. (Nah, just in stupid fundie believers, really, but the "fix" worked better that way.)

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"In the beginning God made them male and female." God made man in His image (as a moral creation) as male and female, reproducing after their own kind. These two things are observable and testable."

(*Presses Tannoy microphone button*)

Paging Prof. SpukiKitty. Would Prof. SpukiKitty please go to the Inspecteur Clouseau Ward for the Terminally Clueless, as a patient is waiting. And please bring examples of homosexuality in nature with you.

...oh, and also a liceaunced Minkey & an outrageous French accent. X3

Well, if Non-Sequiturs are good enough for you Ray Cumfart, I'll recommend that you're transferred to the Eddie Izzard Ward, and you're given Cake or Death treatment. Banana Cake - or... (*gulp!*)... the BANANA! [/Princess Molestia] X3

...but enough Eddie Izzard/Ross Noble diversions, methinks. Onto the main meat of your sockpuppeting so obvious that Stevie Wonder can see it, Ray:

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Now, according to your 'true' Word of God, all insects were 'created' with four legs. Now take a look at the above.

Count 'em.

Genesis: Insects have four legs. It must be the 'Truth'. Must it not...?!

However, something must have happened between then, and now Oh, and before you even think it, there's absolutely nothing in the Bible about there being any manipulation/after-effects (The 'Fall') between then & now. No 'Apologetics' allowed; if it isn't specifically mentioned in the Bible, it never happened.

So either the only possible thing happened, to change your 'God's unchanging Cre(a)ti(o)n between then & now: ergo Evolution, and your 'beliefs' are annihilated, or your 'true', literal 'Word of God' is therefore proven to be nothing more than the drug-fuelled ramblings of a bunch of Bronze Age goatfuckers with ideas above their stations (thus the philosophical question 'Did God create Man, or did Man create God?' is answered), and your 'Truth' is proven to be LIES.

See http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html for details of why you are the confused, and we Atheists [I]aren't[/I].

old comment by Anon-e-moose

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"Ray, if you believe men and women are different species, please explain exactly how men "reproduce after their own kind" without women being involved. And once you do that, explain how women "reproduce after their own kind" without men being involved.

Well? We're waiting...."

Ray Cumfart had better not watch the anime series "Vandread" then, if he knows what's good for him. The initial premise of the scenario - a future human society that had split into two separate gender-specific races: Taraak (Male) & Mejerr (Female) - would completely fuck his 'argument', and in more ways than one!

"And after you do that, tell us what you believe about homosexuality."

Just as the same question had been asked of Bryan Fischite...:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=94310

...have you ever had any Gay Impulses, Ray? Just a simple 'Yes' or 'No' answer will suffice, Mr. Cumfart. >:D

Ray Comfort #fundie onthebox.us

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