Kimvodkastan the thing you need to understand first is the connections between the words Left, Liberal, and Authoritarian, within the context of politics.
Liberal at one time stood for liberty,
Today Left and Liberal are commonly associated,
And within the last 50-100 years Authoritarians have taken to calling themselves Liberals.
Authoritarians took on the False banner of Liberal because the old methods of state control over the populace had become unpopular so the only way to bring these methods back involved pretending to be what is considered popular, as well as to smear the reputation of the most liberty aligned ideology of that time.
As a result left in some peoples mind gains the reputation of old Liberal, but due to modern influence of Authoritarians that hide behind this banner that reputation gets falsely placed onto ideologies that rely on some form of Authoritarianism to function, Communism and socialism being so closely associated with the Left and historically with Authoritarianism.
This whole site is a monument to the confusion of ideologies so expect there to be a lot of bias on this site and in the game that will be pro statism but will not admit to being pro statism.
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Liberal at one time stood for liberty,
It still does. It's the conservatives who want to curtail people's freedom. It was Rick Santorum who said that the government belongs in people's bedrooms and that Americans don't have a right to privacy. It's conservatives who want to repeal women's right to abortion, keep all drugs illegal, ban gay people from marrying each other, force everyone to be Christian, etc.
Liberals stand for their own twisted version of liberty, formed through generations of indoctrination by Catholic and Marxist professors and displayed at its more raw in the drug addled hedonistic debauchery of the Sodom and Gommorah cesspool known as California. This liberty is totalitarian because it is in violation of God's orders. True liberty--true freedom--is about obedience to the Lord. Those who follow the Bible without question are advocates of Liberty. Country's who rigorously enforce the Bible in all levels of their government, especially in moral law, are the free countries. The only way America can be a free anti-totalitarian country is to throw all those who defy God in jail so they can no longer corrupt our society.
He's back!
Sorry PC, but you are so far beyond wrong you cannot see it.
Your religion requires blind obedience to a vengeful god. Why else would it create Hell and Damnation as an eternal punishment? It requires mindless worship or burn, sheep, burn. Your religion is slavery.
Then name a country that enforces the bible and which translation of the bible it uses and I will show you a better, fairer country that is secular.
@Adey
Puritan New England was run on the morality of the King James Bible (the true, uncorrupted word of God) and it was the most prosperous, most moral, and most functional of the all the colonies in Colonial America. Life expectancy far exceeded that of the Godless Secular Mid-Atlantic colonies. If America were still run the way John Winthrop envisioned it, it would have no problem with debt, sexual immorality, abortion, blasphemy, drugs, or Rothschild shadow banking rule. No country in history was as well run as New England colonies in the 17th and 18th Centuries.
Oh dear PC, you're might to tug the string along for a few posts, not blow your load this soon!
Really, the King James bible is the true version? Even complete braindead proto-trolls can see clean through that line, step up your game
@ PissingCrapAtTrolling
King James Bible
You mean that crappy piece of shit that was meant to conform to the way the CoE went about things? That being that divorce was perfectly fine...
Yeah... that's exactly what God said...
Seriously though, the KJV is the most error-ridden and badly-translated version of the Bible in English there is... it has more errors than correct words! If you're going to troll, at least make it believable.
And the terms right and left came from the French revolution, afterwards actually, when the legislature split on opposite sides. The one on the right were for the monarchy, status quo, tyranny, and resisting every reform proposed by the left.
So whats YOUR point?
I have always wondered if there is a 'conspiracy mad libs' website. do any of you know?
something like
(insert issue here)
is because of the
(evil/nefarious/...)
(Jews/bankers/Jewish bankers/homosexualist agenda/FemiNazis/patriarchy/enviroNazis/atheists/Muslims/atheist Muslims/.../Obama ie all of the above)
with their/his
(vaccines/fluoridated water/healthcare/...)
STOP THEM/HIM!
(The Holocaust/financial crisis/stories of oppression/global warming/.../fairness of the 2008/2012 election)
is an (evil, liberal...) lie!
FIGHT THE EVIL!
If it doesn't exist, someone should create it. Maybe I might, after my exams. :P
@ProtestantCrusader:
This liberty is totalitarian because it is in violation of God's orders.
This liberty is totalitarian because it is in violation of God's orders.
LIBERTY is TOTALITARIAN because it is in VIOLATION of God's ORDERS.
Seriously, my friend, did you check what you typed? If yes, have you consulted a dictionary regarding the capitalised words? Because as it is, it makes no sense.
Maybe your divine guidance may be knowing some higher truth that makes the above make sense. If so, please, enlighten us.
A far more parsimonious explanation is that the term "liberal" was chosen in opposition to "conservative".
"Liberal" never stood for liberty, which is a vague concept anyway. If asked, even Kim Jong-un will say he stands for liberty.
In politics, liberal meant (and still means in many parts of the world) market liberal, in opposition to the state-controlled markets of the time.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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