It has to be said: what kind of parent would send their child to a public school today in the first place? I’m dead serious here. Public school is handing your children over to Marxist, satanic psychopaths because you (the parents, and let’s face it, grandparents too. If I was a grandparent, I’d offer to help with the home schooling myself OR chip in to pay for private tutors. Hey. Two BRILLIANT ideas in one sentence: something for the old folks to do besides watching the damn TeeVee AND the call for the resurgence in the private tutoring business!) are too damn greedy and/or lazy to homeschool. ”We can’t AFFORD it.” Yeah. The immortal souls of your OWN CHILDREN are of little to no value. Way to go, post-Christian denizens of the Iniquitous Gutter Kleptarchy. Way to “take up your crosses.” Nice hustle.
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What's a soul?
No, seriously. In all the time I've heard fundies of various stripes preaching at me about how my godless ways are putting my soul in jeopardy, not once have any of them been able to tell me what a soul is .
Being that FoxNews' average viewer age is 71 as are most right wing media and churchs patrons, and the vast majority of the Tea Party is over 55,,, yeah,, I just bet you'd like the grandparents 'educating' the kids.
Hey Ann, not all parents are psycho-control freaks who want to manage and monitor every little morsel of knowledge that goes into their kids' brains. They're also parents who want their kids to do something with their life besides stand on street corners handing out Chick tracts.
My public school upbringing is why I have such a fascination with different countries and cultures, a love of books, and an ability to think for myself and deal with all types of people. Which is, of course, all the things you fundies hate.
But that's okay, Ann, Just stay in your ivory tower, and keep telling yourself that you're right and everyone else is wrong, if that's what it takes to make you feel better about yourself. The rest of us will continue to strive to make our future generations useful and productive citizens.
@Da Rat Bastid
"What's a soul?
No, seriously. In all the time I've heard fundies of various stripes preaching at me about how my godless ways are putting my soul in jeopardy, not once have any of them been able to tell me what a soul is."
You are the soul.
Man is a soul. Man has a body.
I remember I had a marxist math teacher(member of the PCF, the french communist party). He never said one word of politics in class. Never. And he was amongst the best teachers.
(unfortunately, it happens that marxist teachers let their ideas slip into their lessons. My sister had a teacher like that. But, hey, rightists are no better...)
I went to public school (like almost all other Swedes), and I never met any satanic psychopaths. The closest thing to that was the very Christian teacher I had during my first three years of school. I might have met a Marxist or two, but none that tried to "convert" me. Greed has nothing to do with the choice of school, as education in my country is mostly paid for with tax money, even at corporate schools. Home schooling was not allowed when I went to school, it became allowed just a few years ago.
The largest scandals we have had in regards to schools, were two private/corporate schools. One, a boarding school, where the teachers and matrons looked the other way while the students were "hazing" each other, in one case so bad that one kid had to visit hospital with a burn on his back from a flat-iron. The other school suddenly went bankrupt in the middle of term and the kids didn't get to graduate. The owners had "fleeced" it of all the tax money it had been given to provide education for the kids, and moved the money to tax-havens.
The "old folks" in my country are working themselves, and have lives of their own. Sure, they love to see their grandkids every once in a while, but not all day every day.
"what kind of parent would send their child to a public school today in the first place?"
The kind of parent who doesn't want their child to spend months and millions of dollars on psychological care and class action law suits.
"what kind of parent would send their child to a public school today in the first place?"
...the kind who knows what side of the counter their child will be standing on in the future; which one will be saying 'Would you like fries with that?'
But hey, McDonald's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell et al are always wanting monkeys paid peanuts. Fortunately, my parents had the foresight to ensure that their kids would aspire to better things, thus I went to state schools. Hasn't done me any harm; it's why the National Curriculum exists here in the UK; even in private tutoring & homeschooling, it - even in 'Faith' schools that receive state funding - is compulsory; including teaching that the Big Bang & Evolution is fact . It's the law , thus no Kitzmiller vs. Dover required here.
It's how - and why - China have successfully compromised your country's commercial/intelligence/military databases of late, dearie. No religion or 'Hoemskuling' allowed in that country, and you don't learn how to perform Cyberattacks from reading a book of fairytales, you know. In Soviet China, God worships you .
Mao ist 'psychopaths'? So much for 'Faith' then. Go ahead, Ann Barnarse: submit your 'prayer' services to the DoD/Pentagon. That'll serve as the perfect 'firewall', eh...?! [/hyper-sarcasm]
Misconception after misconception.
I don't know about your grandparents, but mine have lives, they go places and see interesting things, they did not retire so they could become tutors.
Public education is only as good as the student, parent, and staff can make it. Mine had AP courses, engineering teams, and robotics teams all available for free.
STFU! I work in a large public high school and we do an excellent job in academics, the arts and character building. To my knowledge, we have no Marxists, Satanists or psychopaths on staff.
P.S. We have no positions available for cranky, unthinking dolts, so don't send a resume.
"Two BRILLIANT ideas in one sentence: something for the old folks to do besides watching the damn TeeVee AND the call for the resurgence in the private tutoring business!"
Yeah, you're right. Maybe they can combine their knowledge of the Dewey Decimal System with your complete lack of critical thinking skills and create a generation of fucking morons.
PS calling your own ideas brilliant is pretty much guaranteed to mean that your ideas are idiotic.
Public schools are forbidden to get into religious beliefs, either for or against. Blaming schools for not teaching kids your religion is like blaming the supermarket or the gas station. Teach your kids your beliefs at home and church, and let other parents teach theirs.
According to Jesus, the immortal souls of your children are of little to no value if they don't love their neighbor. Teach them that, first; then worry about sex education, evolution and all the other trivial crap you anguish over.
Public schools are often a parent's only option. But, believe it or not, many parents send their kids to public schools even if they have other options. My public school education was above average and it was a safe environment. Aside from some overcrowding in middle school not really any issues.
I can only imagine how miserable it would have been if my parents or grand parents had tried to home school anyone. My dad could help tutor to a certain extent, but that was it. And my grandparents have a bazillion grandchildren. How could they pay for education or distribute their time between all of them? My maternal grandmother is not rolling in the dough. My paternal grandparents still care for my aunt with Down syndrome. Most of their time and money goes to her.
Now my immediate family is not religious, but I know that there are plenty of Christian families who remain Christian while their kids attend public school. I imagine they believe their "immortal souls" are going to be fine and don't buy into the insanity of the home schooling fundie crazies. Because they're sane.
@ Da Rat Bastid
I'm willing to believe that human beings have some intangible quality that runs parallel to the development of their personality defining who they are and I'm willing to call that their soul, but unlike #1666438 I'm not going to turn it into some quasi-mystical mumbo-jumbo. There are parts of the psyche that develop without a clear link to either "nature" or "nurture" as we typically define them and lies outside the knowns and predictable patterns of psychological development. Call it your soul, call it a fluke, call it coincidence, call it my silly self reading into things too much but in my observation it's this quality that determines whether an event shapes the personality or if it's just background information to be stored in memory.
Logically speaking the exact same stimulus should effect people in the same way, but it doesn't. It's different for everyone despite having the same fundamental physical structure (including genetically identical twins) and many being raised in the same or similar environments. Science and logic run on constants and what I'm describing is by definition both illogical and unscientific but still based on factual observation.
Even so I don't have any reason to believe it's some supernatural thing or persists after death or anything of the sort, I just think it's something inexplicable that's there.
When you spend as much time as I have trying to figure out how to bluff your way through natural interaction with a society that's far more insane than it claims you are you do tend to notice a few oddities.
I went to a public school. Its true that there are many public schools that are lacking in their teachings, however mine was very good and focused mainly on education.
Of course, you don't care about that. You only care if the school is Marxist or satanic. I have never meet someone who considered themselves satanic at my school. There were many religions at my school, but most were Christian. There were no Marxist teachers, although I suppose you think that anyone who is a Democrat is a Marxist. Yes, some teachers were Democrats, and some were Republicans. One of my teachers was even a proud member of the Tea Party.
Looking forward to retirement ?
Tough! Now you have to educate the mewling brats that your own children are too fucking stupid to teach themselves. Forget that Round The World Cruise you promised yourself, that's way out of the window. Instead, start brushing up on your algebra and conjugated verbs. How dare you watch television, you're supposed to be writing a lesson plan.
Hmmmm ... well, my elder son didn't do well at a regular school (how we foreigners usually refer to "public schools") during his early teens, that was a bullying problem, not "satanic" or "Marxist" people brainwashing him.
My younger son is currently taking the regular high school curriculum and a tech course (Aviation) that will end up with him having his private pilots' license, and will also qualify him as a flight engineer ... at no extra cost to me. he's having a blast at school, and has a ton of friends and a steady girlfriend. If I tried to remove him from that school, he'd have a major fit.
And I don't know anyone that home-schooled. It's really not that popular in Canada, as far as I know.
The kind of parent that lets their children be exposed to the public: the one who considers their children to be REAL LIVE HUMANS OF THEIR OWN who deserve to be part of the real world, not your freakin' property. Not everything in public school is perfect but your kids are part of society, not your property. Accept it or probably lose your kids when they grow up because there's nothing you can do to stop them becoming independent adults who think for themselves.
Oh, it's these assholes. Hey, moron! Do you go to public school currently? Are you a teacher? Are you in any way familiar with the curriculum? No? Then shut up and stop talking about things you are obviously ignorant about!
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