[Explaining how "rape" is a fictional crime created by the minions of Political Correctness]
Not a subject I would normally associate with political correctness but after the extraordinary new policy statement from the PC Brigade's feminist-in-chief Ms Harriet Harman, I felt it was worthy of a page in itself!
According to Ms Harman, The Solicitor General (has a certain ring about that title - perhaps it's too much like Witchfinder General) one in twenty women has been raped. Not only that, apparently too many men are getting away with it!
Like all members of the PC Brigade, Ms Harman's common sense was surgically removed when she joined. If that figure was true, we would be constantly hearing of women raped locally and it would be the major news item on TV each day. When one dissects her dodgy statistics, it turns out that most of the 7,000 women involved in a survey didn't say they had been raped at all. Most said 'they had sexual intercourse against their will' which is a totally different thing. Most men if asked would probably say that they 'go shopping against their will' or 'visit the Mother-in-law against their will' - when they would rather perhaps watch the match on TV. All of these things are just emotional blackmail or 'give and take' within a relationship.
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That's funny, one guy tried that on me when I was about to toss him off the deck because he tried something to that effect.
She says no, you don't stop, you're a deadman in my book.
"Sexual intercourse against their will" isn't rape? Never heard that one before.
Salix Babylonica, you have obviously never met my mother. I can't count the number of times that I had to go shopping for clothes against my will. I hate shopping and will wear any part of clothign until it practically desintegrates.
I actually had sex "against my will" while it was not rape. That would be the "oh, hell, I'm tired but what the heck, let's start doin' it, I know I'll get in the mood in the process" one.
The one he's describing... not so much.
Sandman -- I suspect he's going to have a lot of experience with NOT having sex, which, I suspect, will be against HIS will.
There's a whole website dedicated to attacking political correctness? When will these idiots realize what political correctness means?
Every time some atheist says, "I respect your religion," that's political correctness. Would the fundies prefer we all just stop being civil from both sides?
"When one dissects her dodgy statistics, it turns out that most of the 7,000 women involved in a survey didn't say they had been raped at all. Most said 'they had sexual intercourse against their will' which is a totally different thing."
No, it is exactly the SAME thing. Consenting to sex even though you're not really in the mood is vastly different from having sex forced upon you against your will.
Going shopping? Visiting the mother-in-law? This is your idea of something that equates to rape? Go see a doctor, bub; your empathy gland appears to have dried up, but proper surgery (say, castration) may restore it.
~David D.G.
"If that figure was true, we would be constantly hearing of women raped locally and it would be the major news item on TV each day."
You wouldn't hear of all of them, just the first couple. After that it magically becomes mundane and uninteresting and our sensationalist media moves on to using something else to scare people and stir them up.
So, sexual relationships, integrity, the very act of union against the will of a person, is at the same level as pleasing the couple joining a temporary hobby which makes NO HARM?, this guy is not an apologist, it´s an idiot promoter.
Wyatt Junker just pulled a similar argument on the forums. He said something to the effect of, "I should of known you (slur of some kind, lib perhaps) would jump on the PC bandwagon."
This is because I had issue with a racist comment and a total non-sequitor where he apparantly was looking for a chance to mock the rape scene in 'The Accused'. yeah, I'm overly sensetive!
Both of these turds should be flushed.
Yes, yes, and the people in Guantanemo bay aren't prisoners, they're just 'detained against their will'.
You've never had a relationship have you?
I'm guessing your first chance at that will be with a guy called Bubba - and remember anal shaftings aren't against your will - you don't want your head punched in do you? No? Good, it's agreed this is your choice - bend over bitch!
You know, I don't like political correctness (even though rape has nothing to do with any PC, it is just a sickening act), but I also hate Political incorrectness. They claim to not conform with PC, but they are doing the opposite. By doing the exact opposite of whatever is defined as PC, without question, they call themselves politically incorrect. That is conforming to the political correctness. So maybe this guy thought not raping people is PC, so he decides to define rape differently, just for the sake of the definition of rape being "PC" (towards his knowledge), and so he defines himself against political correctness.
Whadda Dick.
Now, let´s fund the club "against their will" and now let´s make eliminate prisons and the penal code. Thus, there will be no more theft just "they were taken things against their will", wich is, don´t forget it, at the same level as "going to the shops against their will", or no more murder, only "they cease to exist against their will", which is at the same level as "going to the in-laws against their will", just to quote a few cases.
When was the last time you had a woman who wasn't crying or wanting payment?
In seriousness, I see what he's trying to say, but there's a difference - as said by Ice - between doing it if you're not really in the mood, and actually not wanting to do it but being forced. He's trying to say the former is what happens, but he's screwed it up good.
And the statistics, I hear, are closer to a quarter than a twentieth.
If that figure was true, we would be constantly hearing of women raped locally and it would be the major news item on TV each day.
Not with assholes like you around to make them feel like it was their fault.
When one dissects her dodgy statistics, it turns out that most of the 7,000 women involved in a survey didn't say they had been raped at all. Most said 'they had sexual intercourse against their will' which is a totally different thing.
Look up "rape" in a dictionary, asshat. Then retract your statement or remove yourself from the gene pool.
He continues, by the way, saying, "every sensible person thinks that rape is sexual assault caused by a stranger.......the problem is casual sex. Women.........) he hints, summarising, that women just are sluts who frame guys to be in jail alleging rape. Rubbish. EVEN IF IN A DATE OR A RELATIONSHIP, FORCING A PERSON TO HAVE SEX IS A CRIME. End of the tape.
My girlfriend was raped by her grandfather, a pastor at a local fundie church, between the ages of 10 and 14. Do you have any idea what that sort of trauma does to a person?
It took her 5 years to admit the abuse to anyone, because she was afraid no one would believe her, and she still lives every night with the emotional trauma.
Out of the last 6 girls I've been involved in relationships with, 3 had a history of rape or sexual abuse. It's a major societal problem. If I ever meet you, it will be hard not to shove a knife into your eye, P.I.G.
Ohh...good sir, you are not just politically incorrect...you are incorrect in perhaps every arena known to man. I am debating upon who I would like to see less of in this world: the apparently ubiquituous rapists, or ignoramuses like you. I think I'll just hedge my bets and take at aim at the people like you...I might get lucky and wipe out out the first category in the process. Regardless, the world would be much better off...
The most pain you will get from grudgingly visiting a mother-in-law is earache.
That does not compare to the deep and devastating physical, emotional and mental pain of being raped, fuckwit!
As Wow mentioned: Family members,clergy and family friends are responsible for a lot of the rapes.
Power.
Fundie religions teach total obedience and total subserviance to the church and family. These would be repeated rapings to, which explains the high unreported rapes.
As I said on other posts I fear for the Fundie girls.
WOW!!
That's like saying that the absence of light isn't dark. It's like saying a box with no contents isn't empty.
IT'S LIKE STICKING YOUR HAND INTO FIRE, PULLING IT OUT IN PAIN AND THEN SAYING IT'S NOT HOT!!!! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!
*shoots the stupid out of Politically Incorrect Guy and then runs out of ammo, but not stupidity*
Seriously? Comparing rape to going shopping? Women, friends, and success are all incomprehensible to you, aren't they?
Even raping this douchenozzle wouldn't help, because he'd just assume his pain and trauma were oh-so-much-worse than that of the worthless sluts he assumes all women are.
Death in a fire is too good for assholes like this. He should get caught in a fire, suffer third-degree burns all over his body... and live.
How's that for "politically incorrect", you penis-worshiping, self-fellating, oxygen-thieving, complete waste of skin?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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