[Gloria writes in, "Why did Dr Hovind say Special Relativity is wrong when particle physicists say it's correct and they test it everyday in particle accelerators? So why is it wrong?"]
I don't get into much of the Special Relativity and Einstein Theories [sic] and, ah, ah, you know, Newtonian Physics, ah, that kind of stuff doesn't interest me much. So I guess I haven't put a lot into it. [...] So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, you know, that space can be bent.
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General relativity says space-time can be bent, not space. Minkowski space-time and Euclidian space have completely different geometries. And you're getting your relativities mixed up.
It's hardly more absurd than quantum mechanics. Sometimes the universe just turns out to defy common sense. If God is as awesome as you claim, what makes you think he'd make the laws of physics in such a way that you could understand them easily?
Feel free to come down to the physics labs at Oxford and I'll show you both in action.
Kent actually admitted to not knowing something!!
Is this a sign of the rapture!?!?!?!?!?!?
Of course that doesn't mean that he'll listen to anyones explanation, or stop criticizing it.
Wouldn't you think that the Earth being only 6,000 years old and that at one point a giant ice barrier that surrounded the Earth fell to it and caused a great flood that carved all the canyons and caves and formed the ice caps and that Tyrannosaurs was a herbaviore for Christ's sakes sounds a little absurd?
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"So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, you know, that space can be bent."
And that makes it wrong? Taken a look at your theology lately? Besides, if that seems strange to you, wait until you hear about some of the ideas in quantum physics...
Talking donkeys and talking snakes, hundreds of people rising from the dead, a man ascending into heaven in a whirlwind, virgin birth, 6-day creation, God himself, heaven, hell... and you call physics absurd?
Get bent, Kent.
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"So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, "
Like talking snakes and magic fruit? Dirt turning into people?
So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face
Yes, yes they are. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
What I want to know is what makes these people follow a criminal? I'm not one to research what I don't agree with (ahem) but isn't Hovind the one who is in jail for tax evasion? The same man with fake degrees from unaccredited colleges?
The fake degrees and lying are enough to turn me off a person, whether I agree with them or not.
The blind leading the blind...it's all to common with fundies.
TMR:
In the fundie mind, it is not Hovind who has done wrong and is therefore in prison, but the atheistic evolutionism liberals who did wrong be putting him in prison for attacking evolution.
The money people sent him was god's money, not the governments, so they had no claim on it. The tax evasion charge is bogus.
I don't get into the prison liberry much or the dictionary and encyclopedia [sic] and, ah, ah, you know, round earth theories and such, ah, that kind of stuff doesn't interest me much. So I guess I haven't put a lot into it. Trust me anyway. Send me money.
Wow. That argument certainly swayed me. The research that went into it, the persuasive evidence. I am in your gratitude, Kent.
Sarcasm is hard to translate on the internet, just assume the previous paragraph was dripping with it.
Why did Dr Hovind say Special Relativity is wrong when particle physicists say it's correct
Easy. Same reason a used car salesman tells you the car has never been in a flood. He just makes stuff up and assumes the nitwits who listen to him know even less than he does.
So...you're buying a house in tornado alley. You ask the Realtor if there's ever been a tornado at that place. He firmly asserts "no." You go home, check weather reports, local paper clippings, building permits saying that the place was rebuilt after it got levelled. You present them to the Realtor who still insists there are no tornadoes in that area. Who do you believe?
This really demonstrates how brain dead Hovind's groupies are when it comes to science. I just hope than some day, before he goes laughing all the way to retirement, Kent decides to see just how far he can push the bullshit he's been pedalling.
At this point I would usually have some amusing examples of absurd things Hovind could say, but I can't think of anything more ridiculous than what's come out of his mouth to date...
just die, every moment of your existance just adds to the entropy of the universe and this shorten's its existance.
Mister Spak wrote:
"In the fundie mind, it is not Hovind who has done wrong and is therefore in prison, but the atheistic evolutionism liberals who did wrong be putting him in prison for attacking evolution." In addition, the kind of tax evasion he's in prison for appeals to the "tax protestor" crowd (most of whom are conservative Christians).
"Tax protestors" are folks who have convinced themselves that income tax is unconstitutional, that the tax laws don't actually make individuals liable for income tax, that you don't reside in the "United States" (according to the tax code) if you live in one of the States, and any number of other harebrained pseudo-legal theories that lead to the conclusion that they don't have to pay taxes. Even Wesley Snipes was taken in by these kinds of arguments at one point.
" don't get into much of the Special Relativity and Einstein Theories [sic] and, ah, ah, you know, Newtonian Physics, ah, that kind of stuff doesn't interest me much. So I guess I haven't put a lot into it."
Doesn't this guy claim to have been a *physics* teacher?
Explain a black hole,then...
Explain why variations in which time passes have to be taken into account when using GPS satellite data...
Fucktard!
Ah, science according to Hovind, don't bother examining anything, if you think it's stupid, it must be.
That's not the only thing Scientist say that's absurd on the face of it! They also say things like the world is round. There are people walking around on the opposite side of the Earth without falling off!
I used to scoff when people told me that nothing could exceed the speed of light, that nothing with mass could even achieve the speed of light and that time was an actual phenomenon rather than just a word for something which we perceived.
Y'know what I did?
Instead of automatically assuming that I was right, I did some research and found that, in fact, those crazy physicists actually aren't just pulling stuff out of their arses.
...Unlike you, Mr. Fucking Great Water Canopy. I suggest you do what I did, and actually read some books (note: not the Bible) before you pretend to know what reality is.
So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, you know, that Kent Hovind knows anything at all about physics, chemistry, biology, cosmology, earth science, geology, paleontology, evolution, abiogenesis, or the Big Bang.
So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, you know, that Kent Hovind actually has a brain.
"I don't get into much of the Special Relativity and Einstein Theories [sic] and, ah, ah, you know, Newtonian Physics, ah, that kind of stuff doesn't interest me much. So I guess I haven't put a lot into it."
So all that about you teaching high school science for 15 years, that was all bullshit? Thanks for confirming that.
So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, you know, that space can be bent
Well, unlike the denseness of certain stars: so much that nothing can escape, not even light, your hole became quite loose after ten years in the can.
The only thing that became dense was your brain, Ken 'Bubba's Bitch' Hovind.
Because you forgot to not drop the soap, you were bent.
Having to drag that around since you left the Federal Pen. And your criminal record-based guilt along with your prolapsed rectum, eh Kentypoos...?!
I don't get into much of the Special Relativity and Einstein Theories [sic] and, ah, ah, you know, Newtonian Physics, ah, that kind of stuff doesn't interest me much.
It's not that it "doesn't interest [him] much," it's more like he can't do the math.
So, some of the ideas are just absurd on their face, you know, that space can be bent.
Spacetime is not some static medium, it is dynamic and has intrensic properties like curvature influenced by energy densities. And it's not just an idea, its demonstrable.
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