During my son's first year at primary school we became aware of a number of issues that badly affected him because of a program the parent of a child in his class was permitted to run. She was studying to become a teacher and the Education Dept. had introduced 'visualization' techniques as a way of managing behaviour. Around the dinner table one night under the cover of conversation happening I heard my son say, "We did that thing again today Mummy" (5yrs old) and when I asked "What thing?" he told me about what was happening. We had been for weeks going through terrible nightmares with him involving a man holding a big sword who came into his room and systematically cut pieces off him. He was describing a Samuri (sp?) Warrior and had never seen one in his life before. He used to try to claw his way through the wall in an effort to get away. The visualisation stuff explained the nightmares and I began taking hold of the Word and praying for a solution. In the end I asked to see the teacher and explained our problem with Eastern Mysticism as Christians and when she said no-one else was affected I said it would only affect you if the E.M. spirit came up against the Spirit in a believer. She then told me she couldn't accomodate one student as she used the 'dot' time to work and couldn't look after him. So I volunteered to come to the school and sit and read with my son if she would let me know when it was to happen again. She agreed but know what? The poor lady doing the teacher training became so ill she had to abandon training and the program.
I'm convinced God heard not just on behalf of my son but for all the little minds being influenced and the main teacher heard about the difference between God's lovely Holy Spirit and eastern religion spirit. God went on to do something else about another school for my kids but I'll leave that for another time. Bottom line, good to listen to that soft little voice of a 5 yr old when unexplained behaviour pops up.
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First off, it's samurai. Second, samurai weren't a religious concept, they were simpy a warrior class.
Why do I get the distinct feeling that you wouldn't mind if he were dreaming about a viking, even though they weren't Christian either?
Yes, because the Samurai were the only people ever to use swords.
Revelation 6:4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.
That's just one of over 400 references to swords in the Bible.
Incidentally, is it just me or does anyone else think that John of Patmos accidentally picked the wrong mushrooms for his breakfast omelette the morning he wrote Revelation?
Or,,,
Maybe it's time you considered not raising your kid in an enviroment of constant fearmongerling.
... How do these Rapture Masturbators even function in their daily lives? I'm honestly mystified as to how they don't wind up strangled to death by discarded six pack rings.
Visualization techniques are used by athletes to enhance physical performance. They're like positive thinking techniques, not "mysticism." And, really, did this clown think she and her family were the only Christians in that entire school? I feel for that kid. And the teacher that had to deal with this profound lunatic. I can only imagine the look on her face when this idiot started spouting all this crap...
The visualisation stuff explained the nightmares and I began taking hold of the Word and praying for a solution.
The "Word" that has such lovely things as dashing babies against stones and bears tearing apart children?
We had been for weeks going through terrible nightmares with him involving a man holding a big sword who came into his room and systematically cut pieces off him
The Bible has plenty of stories about putting people to the sword, including children.
The poor lady doing the teacher training became so ill she had to abandon training and the program.
I'm convinced God heard not just on behalf of my son but for all the little minds being influenced and the main teacher heard about the difference between God's lovely Holy Spirit and eastern religion spirit.
This part makes me think that this is one of those fundie bullshit stories.
@Doubting Thomas: He practically admits as such:
when she said no-one else was affected I said it would only affect you if the E.M. spirit came up against the Spirit in a believer
Translation? I'm not remotely surprised our child is the only one affected; it always seems to only be the fundies' kids who react like this to any fantasy story not pre-approved. But it's still your fault for introducing him to something unfamiliar and not mine for sheltering him from the entire world.
You know, when I was a little girl, I had a big imagination too. I played with fairies, fought evil dark lords, and hung out with the ghost of Oscar Wilde. I didn't get into my Japanaphile stage later. Your kid's progressing quickly!
For me, it was Doctor Who (Tom Baker) whose encounters with monsters might cause me some nightmares. I swear this was self-inflicted, though, watching the Doctor against the advise of my mother. She never tried to scare me with hell and damnation either.
Behavior Visualization
It is possible to learn to respond to anxiety and other stressful situations in a different way by first imagining a person performing the behavior as you would like to do it yourself. A counselor can help you practice this skill, which involves:
Identifying the parts of a situation you want to change;
Deciding the ways you would prefer to behave (to reduce your anxiety); and
Learning this preferred way of behaving by visualizing others and yourself doing this behavior over and over.
[sarcasm]Yeah, that sounds so demonic [/sarcasm]
Or, you know, you could explain that samurai aren't some fantastical creature and are actually just warriors from feudal Japan who were similar to European knights and like knights they don't actually exist anymore. But you'd have to actually know something about samurai to do that and judging by your spelling you can't even be arsed to do enough research to get the damn name right.
To everyone saying that explaining what a samurai is would calm the child, that's a load of bullshit. I had night terrors about robbers as a kid, explaining wouldn't have made that go away. Night terrors aren't logical.
"E.M. Spirit? I know Poppycat's probably talking about the "Holy Spirit" but what the heck does "E.M." stand for?"
Eastern Mysticism.
In the end I asked to see the teacher and explained our problem with Eastern Mysticism
There's nothing mystic about samurai. They existed. Maybe you'd have something if the teacher was teaching some Shinto mythology, but you obviously can't be bothered to learn anything about what scares you.
Good. One class of, what, 20 are saved from possibly having nightmares.
Nice save God. Now, there's this continent called Africa I'd like to talk to you about....
@Zagen30
Oh I get! I miss-read it. Sorry.
Oh, and Poppycat, samurai were military. Granted, they were connected to the Bushido code & Shinto spirituality but that said, a bunch of guys wielding swords is not more mystical than a guy in fatigues wielding an assault rifle.
Because 5-year old boys don't have attention-getting nightmares, and can imagine things they have never seen.
DUMB-SIDED! AAAAAAAARRRRGHHHH!
@ Gressil:
I have referred to him as Saint John the Mental Patient for years.
@ nazani14:
Desert island? Drinking salt water would explain a lot.
when she said no-one else was affected I said it would only affect you if the E.M. spirit came up against the Spirit in a believer.
That reminds me of a joke I heard years ago:
A woman calls the police to complain about a man who's constantly exposing himself indecently in public. The police arrive and the woman takes them to her back yard. When the police say "we don't see anything", the woman says "of course not, you have to get up on that chair, lean out over the fence, and stretch as far as you can, then you'll see him out on his patio."
@dionysus
and like knights they don't actually exist anymore.
I beg to differ. While they may no longer wear a tin can suit, there are still knights .
@Filin De Blanc
I highly doubt this person knows what a samurai even was (she can't even spell it), she just regards them as evil because they weren't white.
It's not so much that they weren't white, as that they weren't Christian. Fundamentalists, for the most part (excepting those that are in fact racists) aren't racist. They're more against people who aren't Christian, regardless of skin tone or ethnicity. If an individual is ready to "accept Jesus," (i.e., believe exactly as they believe), they don't care too much about the skin color. The Far East was never Christianized, so there's a lot of fear (in the fundie mind) about beliefs and ideas that come from there. Add in China (the biggest Communist nation that's still around), as well as Buddhism (which doesn't require a belief in any deity - let alone the Christian one), and there's a lot of fear about the people there.
I'm not justifying this fear, I'm just saying that it's not racism, more than it's anti non-Christianism.
Incidentally, is it just me or does anyone else think that John of Patmos accidentally picked the wrong mushrooms for his breakfast omelette the morning he wrote Revelation?
You're not alone, Gressil --Thomas Jefferson basically thought that as well!
Oh, and did you know that there is in fact an entire genre of apocalyptic literature , only one book of which was considered canon and put into the New Testament? (Scroll down to "Non-Canonical," even I was surprised at how many there were that have survived, and/or never heard of.)
I'm also not surprised the teacher got sick (or is that just what Poppycat thought happened?); when you work with 20 young children, whose immune systems are still learning, you will get sick from time to time. Or maybe she just used that as an excuse to get away from Scary Religious Lady.
He had never seen one in his life. No surprise. They don't exist since the 19th century and, let me tell you something, they were just paid warriors and mercenaries. It's like saying that you are afraid that he dreams about Confederate soldiers.
Maybe you shouldn't take everything your five year old tells you at face value.
Also you know samurai were real people right? Nothing mystical about them.
You are one crazy paranoid nut and I'm not surprised your kid is turning out the same way. I feel pretty bad for them.
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