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As I said, the Persians never even had a world empire; so why should anyone take their plastic god (Zoroaster) seriously?

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old comment by Moondog

Do you take Native American gods seriously? The Iroquois Confederation was a world empire by any standards in the seventeenth century, covering a large part of what's now the US and Canada:

Iroquois, the confederation of Iroquoian tribes known to history as the Five Nations (the Cayuga, Mohawk, Oneida , Onondaga, and Seneca) or (after 1722, when the Tuscarora joined the league) as the Six Nations. The name is derived from the Algonkin word meaning "real adders" with the addition of the French suffix -ois. They called themselves Ongwanonsionni ("we of the extended lodge").

The League of the Iroquois, when first known to Europeans, was composed of the five tribes above-mentioned, and occupied the territory from lake Champlain to the Genesee river, and from the Adirondacks southward to the territory of the Conestoga tribe. The date of the formation of the league is not certain, but there is evidence that it took place about 1570, as the result of wars with the Huron and Algonkian tribes. The confederation immediately began to make its power felt. After the coming of the Dutch, from whom the Iroquois obtained a plentiful supply of firearms, they were able to extend their conquests over all the neighbouring tribes until they were supreme over the territory from the Ottawa river to the Tennessee, and from the Kennebec river to the Illinois. Their westward advance was ultimately checked by the Chippewa; and their northward movement encountered the opposition of the French and their Indian allies. The struggle between the French and the Iroquois lasted from 1609, when Champlain first came into conflict with Iroquois warriors in the Richelieu valley, until the latter end of the seventeenth century, when Frontenac forced the Iroquois to make peace, and the French missionaries succeeded in Christianizing some of the Iroquois in the St. Lawrence valley and on the north shore of lake Ontario.

http://faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.belanger/QuebecHistory/encyclopedia/IroquoisConfederacy.htm

old comment by Beeblebrox

...the Persians never even had a world empire...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Persian_Empire

The Achaemenid Empire or Achaemenid Persian Empire (Persian: ????????? IPA: [ha??mane?ij?n]) (550330 BC) was amongst the first Persian Empires that ruled over significant portions of Greater Iran, and followed the Iranian Median Empire. At the height of its power, the Iranian Achaemenid Empire encompassed approximately 7.5 million square kilometers and became the largest empire of the ancient world.

The empire was forged by Cyrus the Great, and spanned three continents, including territories of Afghanistan and Pakistan, parts of Central Asia, Asia Minor, Thrace, much of the Black Sea coastal regions, Iraq, northern Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and all significant population centers of ancient Egypt as far west as Libya. (Cyrus the Great was killed in 530 BC during a battle in Kapisa, northern Afghanistan?[1]) It is noted in western history as the foe of the Greek city states in the Greco-Persian Wars, for freeing the Jews from their Babylonian captivity, and for instituting Aramaic as the empire's official language. It fell during the Wars of Alexander the Great in 330 BC. Because of the Empire's vast extent and long endurance, Persian influence upon the language, religion, architecture, philosophy, law and government of nations around the world lasts to this day.

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old comment by a mind far far away

History and religion fail all in one sentence. First, the Persians did have an empire. Nearly twice. Second, Zoroastrians don't worship Zoroaster, they worship Ahura Mazda. Third, Zoroastrianism is not the only religion to come out of Persia. Baha'i did, and Shi'a Islam has a strong presence and history there. Let's not forget that alot of ancient Near and Middle Eastern paganism had much formulation in Persia. And where in the hell did you get Zoroaster being plastic from? Let's first mention that he was a human. With more historical support than your jeebus. Second, the ancient idols were made of stone, wood, or metal, they didn't have plastic.

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