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Carnist Logic..

Carnist: DON’T DE CLAW YOUR CATS! THAT’S ANIMAL CRUELTY!!

Carnist: DON’T GO TO SEA WORLD!! ITS ANIMAL CRUELY!!!

Carnist: HOW DARE THAT DENTIST KILL CECIL!! WHAT HE DID IS ANIMAL CRUELTY!!!

Carnist: EATING DOGS AND CATS?! THAT’S ANIMAL CRUELTY!!

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Carnist: Hey want to go to the zoo?

Carnist: Hey wanna ride horses with me?

Carnist: Hey want some of this chicken parmesan pasta?

Carnist: Hey how cool is this new leather jacket?

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old comment by EG

Declawing cats <i>is</i> animal cruelty. A bit like chopping off someone's toes just for the fun of it.

I don't know a thing about "Sea World", I assume it's some sort of dolphin show? I'm not exactly fond of those, but I suppose it depends on how the animals are trained.

Killing animals for fun is disgusting. Shooting endangered/protected animals for fun doubly so. Luring said animal away to a location where it's technically not illegal to shoot it for fun. Quadrtically so.

Eating cats and dogs is really no different from eating pork or chicken, really. It's not normally done in my culture, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it (some people think eating horses is up there too). What is animal cruelty are some of the traditional ways these animals are killed for food.

Zoos are a lot better for animal wefare than they used to be, and play an active part in preservation of endangered species and education.

Othing wrong with riding a horse, as long as it's treated properly (don't flog it, for instance).

Nothing wrong with eating chicken per-se, except chickens are usually treated quite badly when held for food production. Humans are naturally omnivores though. Being able to live off a vegetarion or vegan diet without getting deficiencies is a choice made possible by the availability of alternate sources for vitamins and minerals. It's not very sustainable though (but neither is the overconsumption of meat that is typical in modern society).

I don't think we just take the hide and throw the rest of the animal away. Might as well use it if the animal is dead anyway. Also, do consider we would not be where we are today if we hadn't used things like animal hides in the past...

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Cut your bollocks off then, Vegemite.

You're not using them, therefore...!

I'll stop eating meat, when you can persuade every big cat on the planet to eat nut loaf & granola. You can start with getting into this cage with a very hungry puma: that has tasted human blood...! >:D

That's why we don't eat ape meat, and not just because it's one of the vectors for Ebola, neither.

We humans didn't claw our way to the top of the food chain just so's we could eat celery, you know.

Would you like it, if you were taken from your natural surroundings, then skinned alive, cooked & eaten by Dr., Hannibal Lecter, Veggie? Because that's what you're doing every time you eat a carrot. Vegetables have rights too, you know! [/mega-paradox]

If you want to go see a Snow Leopard, you go to the Himalayas. As I once saw in a wildlife documentary, the foremost expert on Snow Leopards has only seen them in the wild just five times in 25 years, they're that hard to find. The rest of the time was in zoos, and he didn't complain.

@LightsaberBlues

"Hey, Vegamaze, did you know that tomatoes SCREAM when you are KILLING them? :-) "

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L. Ron Hubbard proved it too.

And you're a louse, Vegemite. X3

old comment by Swede

I want animals to have as natural a life as possible. I prefer game meat (elk, deer, boar) and I don't buy meat from countries that are know for disregard or animal rights.

I haven't been to any zoos for decades.
I haven't ridden a horse for 30 years.
I look for eggs from free-ranging chickens.
I don't have any leather jackets, and isn't most leather done with skins of cows that are also eaten? Iow, all the animal is used, not just a piece.

The dentist killed that lion for the thrill and to mount him on the wall or something. He probably won't eat the meat. I'd say eating and using the skin to keep warm are more usefull things than just decoration.

Where’s the Logic?
This is about the level of Trump Junior, or Eric Hovind, making statements and calling it logic. For no apparent reason…
But not wanting guides to tempt lions out of protected areas for a fake game hunter’s easy trophy doesn’t conflict with eating UNendangered animals raised for the purpose….

Carnist: DON’T DE CLAW YOUR CATS! THAT’S ANIMAL CRUELTY!!

It's not difficult to understand, except by "denial logic".

Have you witnessed how they're prone to infections, needing a special litter for a while? How it's painful, causing them to hesitate even when moving from a 1in object, as if it was a high jump down? I did. Do you know that without claws, they tend to bite more, increasing the odds of infections for family members? That if they need to climb to escape from a threat, they no longer can? If meeting another type of threat like a catfight, they're greatly disadvantaged?

If you know cats, you also know how they're curious and may sometimes find themselves outside even if you're generally careful. Then if they can go outside and have their regular vaccines and flea treatments, they're generally happier and healthier.

Ironically, you sound like the type who might try to feed only vegetables and grain to obligate carnivores, due to general ignorance.

Chicken is one of my favorite foods, there I admit that I don't look at materials showing their suffering everyday, that may not only disgust me but possibly also depress me. I suppose that it's a bit like the sanitary infrastructure I'm used to. Not being a plumber, when flushing organic material, it's almost like if it vanishes into another dimension. It may not, but I hope that the city management uses the best environmental and safety practices to deal with sewage.

I recycle and I isolate the materials of the same type together to ease sorting. I try to do what seems feasible.

@Croquemitaine #207931
You say declawing a cat is animal cruelty. Then you say give them flea treatment which is very toxic and to get them vaccinated which is also very toxic.

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