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A) this is not good graphic design. If the only thing that changes is the text, the graphic is pointless. Are the blue and pink heads meant to indicate homosexuality, gender identity, core body temperature, or what?
B) is there any group really pressuring people to change sex?
Bullshit on radical feminism thinking that both men and women are fine the way they are. Radfems are all about hating men just because they're men.
Radical feminism isn't even true feminism. True feminism is the idea that women are equal to men, not superior.
LOL radfems get shit on a lot lately even though there's maybe 500 of them total.
And yes, people get pressured to repress or change their gender or sexual orientation by abusive parents for a number of reasons as well for sexual slavery that happens to young boys in other countries. I'm still dealing with the later.
The political issue is enough for abusive people to try to mold their kids into transsexuals for progressive points. You know of lying for Jesus, this is lying for Equality.
Wait, isn't one of the tenants of radical feminism that the possession of a Y chromosome means that you are at fault for most of the world's problems, may be a rapist, and need to change? I could swear at least one of those 3 was in there.
I'll keep sticking with my strain of egalitarianism, thanks.
EGALITARIANISM- YES! Be who you are, and stop telling others who to be!
TERFS almost, but don't quite, offer a reasonable worldview.
Gender rolls continue to exist, and your relegating transfolk to ones that cause them anguish and suffering right now for an unstated benefit to a hypothetical egalitarian future.
Inequality now in the name of equality in the future barely makes sense. It makes no sense at ALL when there's no tangible progress made from that inequality you demand.
See, the first two of those are actually perfectly fine. Nobody has to change their physical sex just because of whether they're girly or butch.
But uh...painting rad fems as the reasonable ones here? I'm pretty sure nearly all of them are against the mere concept of marrying males because it's "patriarchy".
Hell, I don't think even most radfems are TERFs.
And try telling someone with gender dysphoria that they're "fine".
Oh for fucks sakes, rights for transgendered people means that they are ALLOWED to determine their own gender identity, not FORCED. This is the same bullshit logic used to say that gay rights forces everyone to be gay. As for that last bit, I have never met a radical feminist who accepted either men OR women for who they are. You either conform to their view of women, or you are called a misogynst, at best, regardless of gender.
Ok, I've seen plenty of MRA types who probably are the first one.
I've never seen the second one. At all. While it wouldn't shock me to hear that someone on the Internet somewhere said something stupid, I've yet to see evidence of any large movement of people who want to force people to undergo transgender therapy when they don't feel they need it.
Radical feminists, by contrast, seem determined to prevent people from undergoing therapy even when they want it. Also, change that male to a blue color, and the radical feminist won't be nearly as accepting as they pretend to be.
To be fair in places like Iran people really are pressured to change their sex if they are homosexual or gender-conforming. And if you are heterosexual and gender-nonconforming or homosexual and gender-conforming then you will get discriminated against no matter what you do.
But that pressure is from islamic fundies not from transpeople. I haven't heard any transsexuals telling cisgender butch women or effeminate men that they are really trans and are wrong for identifying as their birth sex, yet these radfems imply this happens all the time.
@Ireyon
The day perfectly reasonable people were labelled radical SJWs for not agreeing with Gamergate :B
Just kidding, it's actually been a mixed word forever. How radical you are is determined by the position of the beholder.
Well, I'm a cisgender male who thinks almost all gender roles are bullshit, so I agree with the first part.
The second part doesn't happen, except apparently by a few crazy people, and the Iranian government.
The third part is patently false. Radfems actively dislike men. That's why they're radicals.
I know I've encountered trans people who think that way, but that group is the nutjob minority of the trans community.
And radical feminism isn't identity politics based on hating men? Okay.
Well, I like women, therefore I'm a Lesbian !
Problem?
It is possible to be straight and pro-LGBT, you know.
Problem II?
And I personally think that there's no way women could possibly do any worse, so a Matriarchy would fuck you up, and in more ways than one. [/Hillary Clinton, 2016]
Problem III?, and you've struck out. >:D
...and Min? You don't know Gender Politics until you've read/seen the manga/anime "Ouran High School Host Club". >:D
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