It’s likely even Jesus would have OK’d water boarding if it would have saved his Mom. He would’ve done the same to save his Dad, or any one of His disciples. For that matter, He even died to save all humans.
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So.. WWJD, huh? What about all that turn the other cheek, love your neighbor stuff?
Sometimes I wonder if they say these things without actually knowing what waterboarding is, and just assume what they've heard from fellows of their viewpoint is obviously factual and unarguable. I really hope that's the case.
Yup, Jesus died for us, and that gives us the moral right to torture and kill anyone we damn well please. Way to go.
And also, waterboarding to save the almighty, everlasting god? WTF kind of bizarre reality does this person live in? I think my brain is about to implode at his/her logic.
Yup, just did. (runs off to the nearest body shop for a new brain)
Jesus (omnipotent, omniscient God) would have tortured someone (ordinary, run-of-the-mill bloke) to save his father (omnipotent, omniscient God) from exactly what?
What are you guys talking about? Jebus threatens torture all the time. "You got free will. Beleive in me or spend eternity roasting in a lake fire" - if that isn't a thrat of torture then I don't know what is.
The same Jebus who wanted his enemies brought before him and slain? The same Jebus who should have been stoned long before he was crucified for disrespecting his parents?
Jebus didn't give a crap about mary, Jojo or anyoneone else - just him & his boys.
Jesus washed the feets of his disciples, he fed people who were hungry, he said you should turn the other cheek if someone slaps you, that you should treat others as you want to be treated. And never wanted anything in return.
I don't think a man of that kind would condone almost drowning someone to aquire information. Especially not since it is a known fact to not work properly, as people would say almost anything during torture.
You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. That is more like Jesus, than waterboarding.
By "his Dad", do you mean Joseph, or do you mean the omniscient omnipotent immortal Creator of the Universe?
'cause if Yahweh the Lord of Creation needs saving, he ain't exactly immortal, is he?
Sometimes, i wonder if they have actually read about their holy man.
I showed this quote to a friend of mine who is a priest on the Evangelical-Lutheran Church of Finland. He asked me: "Is this guy serious?" I responded: "Yeah, he is." The next moment, he started angrily ranting about how uneducated and hypocritical this man is for about five minutes. I told him to calm down and respond with something witty.
His full response: "I wonder if you have the balls to die for everybody's sins, Pontius Pilate."
If Jesus was God (and simultaneously the Son of God), then don't you think he would just know
Now the Old Testament God is a different story. He would approve waterboarding the guy, just for shits and giggles. Like Dick Cheney.
Jesus died for all of us?
a) how the fuck is that supposed to work, and b) according to your story he woke up again after two nights, which doesn't count as dying, in my book.
It’s likely even Jesus would have OK’d water boarding if it would have saved his Mom. He would’ve done the same to save his Dad, or any one of His disciples. For that matter, He even died to save all humans.
This is supposed to justify waterboarding?
"... whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have [thy] cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. But whosoever hath information thou wantest, waterboard the sonofabitch!"
Jesus - Sermon on the Mount; Matthew 5:39-41, The Authorized Pull-It-Out-Of-Your-Ass Bible
It's just classic mindless drivel from a mindless cretin. Hi roetenks. You know you are dealing with complete simpletons when anything that is harmful is lauded but anything that is humane is reviled. Yeah, you know that religious fundamentalism is lurking not too far away when banal evil comes to visit for the day.
Just ... wow.
So you can be a "christian" AND endorse torture. Sweet!
I'm starting to believe that so-called christians know less about the Babble and the tenets of their faith than nonbelievers.
Jeebus, as he is described in your own damn religious book that you obviously have not read, was a peaceful dude. Now his daddy on the other hand would scoff at the idea of waterboarding as too wussy. He's more into worldwide floods.
@ A Friend
The OT God also was into slaying whole cities, including the livestock.
Oh, but then Jebus came along to break the old law and institute his love crap. Frickin' long hair, hippie freak that Jebus was.
Funny. Did you notice the change in the language there:
versus
"Jesus would have OK’d water boarding if it would have saved his Mom."
See, what (you claim) Jesus did was sacrfice himself, not sacrifice someone else.
Zzzzz....Save all humans.
Zzzzz....Save all humans.
Zzzzzz....Hey sexy mama, wanna save all humans?
You history revisionists make me laugh. You've redefined Jesus from a nice guy who loves and heals everyone (no matter what) to some gun-raging, money-loving, pick-up driving, torture master who hates the poor.
Bizarro world, I tell ya.
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