Now I don’t think that cancer is definitely a judgement from God. But it does show a lot of judgement signs. Most of the people out there hate God, they will not serve him and let him reign over them, would not God heal and clean them?! Yes, but they don’t want him, they want no part of it! So they use their chemo therapy to middle finger God, and his judgements. Thus they may be increasing Gods judgement, like I said I’m not fully convinced but I’m pretty sure.
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bad things happen to good ppl, good things happen to bad ppl. praying to your little friend there doesn't seem to help your odds at all. its almost as if your vengeful, merciless god doesn't alter cancer rates, or cancer survival rates, at all.
#probability
they use their chemo therapy to middle finger God
I use aspirin to middle finger God. And toothpaste, and soap, and lots of other things.
A hearsay, sure, but I read somewhere that if we live long enough, we all get cancer sooner or later.
Honey, we do not hate gods, as we don't believe they exist. Do you hate unicorns?
Strangely enough, the more we "middle finger God", the more people survive cancer.
Letting your followers die from potentially treatable conditions is NOT a good way to promote your ministry.
Okay, let me rephrase that in a way you can appreciate: when people, die they stop putting money in your collection plate!
Bible God's judgment has already started, He is refusing to lengthen short limbs and is causing widespread mental illness to inflict His people. He's also refusing to stop practicing cosmic skittles, admittedly, He does need a lot more practice because He keeps knocking over the wrong ones.
Telling people not to get chemo. That's fucking psychotic. Listen, if you want to tell people that God invented the clouds, that he works through surgeons' hands, and that he hates atheists, go for it. But as soon as you tell sick people to stop getting life-saving medicine your delusion goes from harmless and amusing to full-blown malicious. I don't care if you give God credit for chemo but telling people not to take it? That makes you a monster.
My grandmother died of cancer when chemotherapy was still relatively new. She was devoted to her Lord. You disgust me. I hope that, when you get sick, people remember your views and don't take you to the doctor or to a hospital because giving you drugs or surgery is just as much "interfering with God's judgement."
Perhaps it might have dawned on you that healing is fairly frequently mentioned in the Bible and that humans have the God-given capacity to use their talents to cure and care for the sick, as the Bible commands?
Cancer isn't a judgment from God, except when it is. When my saintly grandmother gets cancer, it's not a judgment. But when some liberal, dope-smoking, atheist, gay guy gets cancer, it's God's divine punishment.
"Now I don’t think that cancer is definitely a judgement from God. But"
Nope. You stop right there, sir. Whatever you're about to say is not worth the energy it would take to say it.
A decade or so ago, I had a tumour on my rectal wall.
1- It was benign .
2- The surgery to have such removed was so successful, the surgeon praised the anaesthetist - as it was his first actual operation - in making such as painless as possible, thus making the procedure pure textbook. That anaesthetist is my physician nowadays. He's a Sufi Muslim. An Atheist I may be, but I'd trust him with my life .
3- ?????
4- Go fuck yourself, God.
The recent 2014 Sochi Winter Paralympics, and our ultra-successful 2012 London Paralympics are basically one big finger to God. The likes of our David Weir (a.k.a. 'The Weirwolf') certainly isn't convinced, otherwise he'd have been able to compete in the previous 2012 London Ol ympics.
He used his advanced wheelchair - along with his pure upper body strength - to win Gold medals at those Paralympics, and no doubt will do so again at the 2016 Rio De Janeiro Paralympics. I'm pretty sure he will ; the Golds he won - and will win - are his middle finger to God.
And Jonathan Edwards would like a word with you. Perfectly healthy is he, yet why did he middle finger your 'God', hmmmmmm...?! He had God 'reign' over him, yet why the change in heart ...?
You may not like the answer if you dare ask yourself the questions he did, Dean.
No, I use my middle finger to flip YOU off.
If your omnipotent God wants people to believe in him he could perform some clearly (that's CLEARLY) miraculous acts. Of course, as an omniscient being, he would already know that.
Well, that's because you are an Anti-Christ, since your anal drip of a statement is 100% counter to the whole crux of your fucking religion: Jesus Christ died for your sins.
You can't convert back to a Jew for OT vengeance when it suits you.
And my grandfather died of lung cancer and he was the most religious person I knew. It wasn't due to his belief; it was due to working 60+ hours a week in a poison-gas spewing factory for most of his life, essentially working himself to death.
My mother is living proof that that's not the case. When she had cancer the first time, she was an avid church-goer, doing the whole worshiping god thing and went through hell both before and during treatment. Since then her while her faith isn't gone, it has weakened, yet when she had breast cancer last year, it was much easier on her and she didn't even need chemo.
So my good sir, I conclude...you don't know shit about health care.
Most of the people with cancer are God-haters? One out of four people die of cancer. Over 10,000 children are diagnosed with cancer in the US every year. There's never been any evidence that people who pray survive any better than people who don't. And finally, there are plenty of known carcinogens - do you imagine God looks down and makes a judgment on you for working with asbestos or being exposed to PCBs?
Is this that dork with the stupid suspenders & the goofy Andy Capp hat?
Oh, surely God works through the doctors & chemo, my friend.
Also, I don't know of a single person who had a change of heart due to your preaching. Most folks gather around you for the same reason they gather around the boob tube to watch Springer .
>like I said I’m not fully convinced but I’m pretty sure.
My mom died from cancer. I am certain that I hate you, and hope you die from cancer too.
@Mike Litoris
Even leaving aside the ridiculous idea of giving /b/ credit for something explicitly said by Epicurus, the "Problem of evil" has a problem in and of itself, in that it's based of the assumption that an omniscient being whose existence by its very nature can't fully be comprehended by humans, must operate based upon morality defined by humans in order to exist.
My college roommate is now a Lutheran minister. One of her most difficult tasks is sitting with people who are dying of cancer, and talking to their families afterwards. I admire her compassion, but if she heard you say this, she'd break off your middle finger and shove it up your ass.
okay, dean, following suggestion: if you get cancer, yougo to a faith-healer. If I get cancer, I go to a hospital that uses chemo-therapy. Lets see, who has a better chance of survival.
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