[Link in original]
A new study says that Republicans are happier with their marriages. At the risk of sounding self-congratulatory, this is completely predictable. If you believe (as Republicans do) that marriage is:
1. A sacred covenant
2. A lifelong vow
3. The fundamental building block of society
...marriage will be important to you, you'll take it seriously, and you'll do it better. If you believe (as Democrats do) that marriage is primarily:
1. A vehicle for grand social experiments.
2. A temporary arrangement that should be able to be dissolved at any time for any reason.
...then we shouldn't be surprised when your marriage isn't nearly as successful as the person who views it as a sacred, lifelong covenant upon which (collectively) the fate of our entire society rests. Actions follow beliefs.
Specifically, Democrats don't think marriage is important, and that translates to them not viewing their own marriage as being nearly as significant as Republicans do. It isn't remotely surprising that this produces measurably worse outcomes.
21 comments
From the article, emphasis mine:
But the gap did not disappear. Even among people with the same demographic profile, Republicans are slightly more likely than Democrats to say they are happily married. The seven-percentage-point gap that exists between Republicans and Democrats without any demographic controls shrinks to three percentage points with those controls.
Also, like "Creation Scientists",
...they write in the article, which was published by the Institute for Family Studies.
I wonder why they didn't have their findings peer reviewed?
Do you really want the list of nationally-known Republicans who have been divorced multiple times? Do you really think it's better to stay in a marriage when the couple no longer loves each other or one is abusive?
Specifically, Republicans think image is more important than substance, and that translates to hypocrisy.
If you believe (as Republicans do) that marriage is:
1. A sacred covenant
2. A lifelong vow
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!! That's a good one. I bet Newt Gingrich himself came up with that one.
-Ronald Reagan - divorced the mother of two of his children. Married Nancy Davis who bore him a daughter only 7 months after the marriage.
-Bob Dole - divorced the mother of his child, who had nursed him through the long recovery from his war wounds.
-Newt Gingrich - divorced his wife who was dying of cancer.
-Dick Armey - Former House Majority Leader - divorced
-Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas - divorced
-Gov. John Engler of Michigan - divorced
-Former Gov. Pete Wilson of California - divorced
-George Will - divorced
-Sen. Lauch Faircloth - divorced
-Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.
-Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia - Barr has been married three times. Barr had the audacity to author and push the "Defense of Marriage Act."
-Sen. Alfonse D'Amato of New York - divorced
-Sen. John Warner of Virginia - divorced (once married to Liz Taylor)
-Gov. George Allen of Virginia - divorced
-Henry Kissinger - divorced
-Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho - divorced
-Sen. John McCain of Arizona - divorced
-Rep. John Kasich of Ohio - divorced
-Rep. Susan Molinari of New York (2000 Republican National Convention Keynote Speaker) - divorced
Source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021618836
Republican= conservative = Fundamentalist Christian (mostly)
Highest divorce rates are in the Bible belt and among Fundamentalist sects. That's a long trending statistical fact.
Check his link. It's not a Pew Poll where church going Christians say they're happier than non church goers but it's the same type of opinion poll.
Not surprized to see this claim now though, probably gonna see a lot more of these soon, lot of damage control needed for them now with their 'family values' idols constantly in scandal and caught is dishonest claims and portrayals of themselves .
I've yet to meet any progressive who thinks marriage is a vehicle for social experiments. That's a strawman cooked up by fundies who think that departing from the status quo in the slightest is a horrifying abomination of existence.
And seriously, citing a study from a Christian conservative organization that can only find a 3% difference when demographics are taken into account? That's..... underwhelming.
"A new study says that Republicans are happier with their marriages."
Republicans were happier with president Dumbya and his economic crash, so that tells you how much Republican self reporting is worth.
History says that republicans are lying jackwagons (perhaps because so many of them are christians), & shouldn't be trusted with running anything more than a Taco Bell drive thru. History also shows that republicans regard marriage as nothing special, since so many of them have divorces against them. Did I mention that republicans are noted liars? I wouldn't trust anyone with an R after their name to give me the time of day.
This Democrat has no issue with marriage at all, just thinks it's a massive waste of time & has better things to do. This Democrat is also waiting to see how many republicans will show up on that AM hack.
"A new study says that Republicans are happier with their marriages. At the risk of sounding self-congratulatory, this is completely predictable. If you believe (as Republicans do) that marriage is"
...completely fucked after Impact Team's dump of Ashley Madison's database.
Josh Buggar.
I bet he's not the only one, neither.
Frankly, the example set by the likes of Newt Gingrich & Donald Fart are the least of your problems, Repubicans; also, divorce rates in the very religious Midwest & Bible Belt states being one in two.
The demographic shift, post-late 2012. The traditionalist Latino vote going Obama's way then. Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Josh Buggar may be the final nail in the GOP's morality coffin. And the Democrats are the ones wielding the hammer. >:D
The key word here is that the Republicans in this survey SAY that their marriages are happy. However simply stating that your marriage is happy does not necessarily make it so.
Twenty five years ago my mother would have said her marriage was happy- even though my father was gambling away any money that came in and saying that she looked like a 'teenage tart.' At that time my mother had to rely on my grandparents to deal with the finances.
Tim's interpretation of this study is only one. How does he know that none of these Republicans are simply stating that their marriages are happy because they think that's what God/their Church says they should be happy.
The study could just as easily prove that Democrats are more likely to be honest about the states of their marriages and therefore are more likely to actually meet their problems head on rather than sweeping them under the rug and pretending that everything is all sunshine and roses.
I'd be interested in the honesty of the participants and whether the Republicans were glossing over faults in their marriage to stay committed to their partner. Whilst this may seem preferable to you, it may not be the best option for those that are in unhappy, potentially abusive relationships.
If you genuinely think that Democrats don't value marriage, then you don't know many Democrats. Just because Democrats may not prioritise marriage as conservatives do, recognising that it's a decision for the individual to make on their own, but this doesn't mean they view it as expendable and something that should be treated with disdain. Often, as seen on these pages, it's the right wing that can sometimes go against the modern view that marriage should be a binding of a couple's love; they often see it as a mandate for baby making or sometimes glorify the days of forced marriages.
From the article you cite:
"The researchers acknowledge that the gap could stem from people’s attitudes toward life and survey questions rather than from the quality of their marriages. “Perhaps Republicans are more optimistic, more charitable or more inclined to look at their marriages through rose-colored glasses,” they write in the article, which was published by the Institute for Family Studies. But it also seems possible that the more respect and even reverence for the idea of marriage in conservative communities affects people’s behavior and attitudes toward their marriages."
There we go. Even the authors of the study acknowledge a likely reason for the results, which you've ignored to pursue your own agenda that has a conclusion which diverges greatly from the study you use as evidence.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.