Why are you so worried about you or your children having a social life outside of church? Ultimately all they need is one friend, and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. However, they can usually find a good friend or two at church. Why does a person have to have a ton of "friends" at school who most likely will not encourage him in the Lord or help him spiritually? I don't think we need to worry about socialization. When I was 5 and my parents began to homeschool me, my grandparents (who are unsaved) were so worried about it. Namely because I would not get the social experience that I "needed." I seem to be doing fine having never been to school, and I thank my parents so much for teaching me at home where the Bible was our main textbook. You don't get that at a public school and rarely at a Christian school.
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Well, you don't get the "Bible as the main textbook" thing in reputable schools for two reasons: first, it's not the 12th century anymore, and second, such an approach leaves the "student" woefully unprepared for any profession other than ignorant fundamentalist preacher, submissive wife, or vacuously-smiling churchmember. Most parents would like more for their children than that.
Sure, you're doing okay...until you get out into the real world (prob. in college) and then flip out, overdose on drugs, and get crabs.
Part of me says, Let them continue to encourage homeschooling. The Xians won't survive contemporary society; natural selection will work as it always has, weeding out those without proper social skills.
Because, as God said in the Genesis, it´s not convinient for the men to be alone. We don´t have friends to glorify the lord, we have them because we need company. They´re not objects or conviniences.
I sort of feel sorry for this person. Obviously, he has no friends and, what's worse, no understanding of the concept of friendship because he has been warped by his parent's abuse. Sad really.
This is called "brainwashing." Isolate the individual from society and insure that everything he/she thinks is based on a single dogma... classic stuff. When a significant proportion of a population is "educated" in this way, one has evidence of a society in decline.
Fundamentalist home schooling = cultural decay. Welcome back to the 11th century. Who cared about the Renaissance, anyhow?
Where I'm from it is actually illegal not to send your child to school.
The scariest part of this individual's story is that the bible was used as the main text. I mean, WTF are the parents using to prepare this kid for society?
This also reminds me of the reason why the monarchy of Saudi Arabia cannot even operate it's petroleum business without the assistance of qualified people from other countries! The Qur'an is the principle form of education in Saudi. This is why you generally have a constant 20% unemployed - when the Qur'an is your only source of education - what can you possibly contribute to your country?
It's called LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD, bucko.
Fuck, you all are going to be serial killers for Jesus, aren't you?
Where I'm from it is actually illegal not to send your child to school.
The scariest part of this individual's story is that the bible was used as the main text. I mean, WTF are the parents using to prepare this kid for society?
This also reminds me of the reason why the monarchy of Saudi Arabia cannot even operate it's petroleum business without the assistance of qualified people from other countries! The Qur'an is the principle form of education in Saudi. This is why you generally have a constant 20% unemployed - when the Qur'an is your only source of education - what can you possibly contribute to your country?
I meet a lot of homeschooled kids at the center where I teach art in the evenings and my wife teaches acting, and they pretty much fall into two categories.
First, the astonishingly bright, confident, and mature, and the other kind, the socialy awkward, timid ones almost always behind grade level in basic skills and knowledge.
And you know what? All the bright and confident ones are from liberal , free-thinking homes, and all the other kind are from the fundamentalist Christian "Public Schools Are Evil" families.
Go figure.
Sandman...
And when Fundies say "Homeschooling is good for kids!" they'll cite the great abilities of the kids with the liberal homeschooling education...
(I'm using 'liberal' in the education context, where it means a broad based, covering multiple subjects, many having nothing to do with making a living.)
Instillation of ignorance of the outside world, ingraining a feeling of dependence on organization, the shunning of outsiders, the enforcing of reclusiveness...
Sounds like a cult to me.
Evidently, in spite of homeschooling, this poster has learned good language skills; spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all unusually good compared to the fundie stuff we usually see here.
However, everything else being said WITH that spelling, grammar, and punctuation is nothing short of tragic and depressing, doubly so because the poster thinks the situation is exactly the opposite.
~David D.G.
Maybe because humans are social animals, and knowing how to get along with other people is necessary to many aspects of day to day living? I knew one person who was being home schooled when I was in high school, and she seemed to be doing okay. But I imagine that part of this is because her parents didn't completely shield her from the world. They even managed to arrange matters so that she was allowed to join my high school band, most likely for the social interaction that she could gain from that. Home school your children if you must, though I have to say I'm not sure I think it's such a hot idea. But don't encourage them to think that they don't need anybody except their ol' pal Jeez. Imaginary friends are great, but they aren't the ones you're kid is going to have to work with when he gets a job.
Evidently, in spite of homeschooling, this poster has learned good language skills; spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all unusually good compared to the fundie stuff we usually see here.
I think the fact that proper spelling isn't taken for granted is more an indictment of the American Education system.
Dave: True, very true, but it also seems to be a low priority for the fundies we see here as well, whether public-schooled or homeschooled, since they're more interested in the biblical message (of their own particular spin) than the communication skills required to discuss it coherently.
~David D.G.
See, humans are social creatures. Without social interaction, they start to lose their minds. Given enough time, they'll die.
I thank my parents so much for teaching me at home where the Bible was our main textbook. You don't get that at a public school and rarely at a Christian school.
You only rarely get the Bible as a textbook at a Christian school?!
I can't imagine that being the case.
Or does saved4ever mean that you rarely get the Bible as a Geology and Biology textbook at a Christian school?
...and this is why saved4ever has no marketable job skills or practical education whatsoever.
Incidentally, isolation can be detrimental to a child. Not being allowed to experience the outside world gives one a skewed view on things - and can lead to xenophobia, in extreme cases.
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Why are you so worried about you or your children having a social life outside of church?
Why do we need a social life in either?
Ultimately all they need is one friend,
Actually, I happier with two-three friends but “Different strokes for different folks.”
and that is the Lord Jesus Christ.
I hate it when people say to have a personal relationship with your “Lord Jesus Christ”. He’s dead! In the famous words of Brad Pitt in The Mexican “It’s hard to carry on a relationship when you’re stuffed with straw from Malbahide*!”
However, they can usually find a good friend or two at church. Why does a person have to have a ton of "friends" at school who most likely will not encourage him in the Lord or help him spiritually?
How do you know that the church friends will do this? My little brother used to have a friend at church who was a jerk ! He was nice at first but he got worst. Now my little brother never hangs out with him.
I don't think we need to worry about socialization.
You bring a good point here, admittedly socializing isn’t the most important thing in a person’s life.
When I was 5 and my parents began to homeschool me,
Nothing wrong so far, there’s nothing bad about homeschooling.
my grandparents (who are unsaved)
Good for them.
were so worried about it. Namely because I would not get the social experience that I "needed."
I hate it when people say that you “need” social contact. The most important things I’ve ever learned about life were by myself.
I seem to be doing fine having never been to school, and I thank my parents so much for teaching me at home where the Bible was our main textbook.
The Bible was your main textbook?! The same Bible that says that
Hares chew cud ?! I weep for your education.
You don't get that at a public school and rarely at a Christian school.
Let’s hope not.
*However you spell it.
"and I thank my parents so much for teaching me at home where the Bible was our main textbook."
And I thank my parents for sending me to school, encouraging reading, participating in sports, art and music, and social life. I also thank them for allowing us to learn from our mistakes, and occasionally throwing us out there to sink or swim on our own.
I don't have a "ton" of friends, though I think I have enough. What I do have is the ability to get along with just about anyone, and to conduct myself properly in almost every possible scenario where I have to be in the presence of at least one other person. The one homeschooled person I know well I would never go to a restaurant with, because her manners are atrocious.
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