On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi arab muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years.
This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will.
The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what?
April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Amazon.com. Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on Amazon.com - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked.
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Well, my spook contacts say that your freind's spook contacts are mistaken.
They told me that this particular Bin Laden, (as there are many) was a failed clone experiment, with ties to the Alien Alliance of Voltair!
The real Bin Laden remains at large! They believe he is somewhere in the jungles of Peru, practicing remote viewing...!
This comes from a reliable source!
I should troll....more!
So, let me get this straight... Obama told the U.S. military to fake a night mission in Pakistan to assassinate Bin Laden, so we deliberately crash a top-secret helicopter in some abandoned compound (thereby giving top-secret technology to the Pakistanis and anyone they want to sell it to), shoot a few guns off, then fly off to an aircraft carrier pretending to carry Bin Laden's body in order to distract people from a book written by a birther, whom nobody really takes seriously anyway? Not to mention that people can still read the book if they want to, and now Obama has a (yet another) vast conspiracy which he has to keep everyone involved from talking about.
Forgive me, I'm more apt to believe the Government and the military than you and your suspiciously unnamed second-hand source.
Obama was right when he said there's no convincing these people.
Ahem: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2011-08/books/ref=zg_bs_tab/190-8531040-5929620
Corsi's bullshit was ranked at #3 on Amazon for the week of April 18-24 2011. By the next week, it was at #67. The next week, it was not in the top hundred.
So if it was ever the #1 book on Amazon, it only stayed there for a few hours, which is meaningless.
On the other hand, why am I taking the time to show how a conspiracy theorist Did Not Do The Research?
Your spook is a fake spook.I, myself having a neighbour who has been in the Cherniy Molot black op subdivision of the KGB (google has masterfully supressed all information on this), know several things this nimrod doesn't.
"Ann, I was with you on the first half of this - until you brought in Corsi the Clown, and his ridiculous racist stuff that's been refuted 50 times."
Really? You were with her on the Muslim inbreeding and the bin Laden conspiracy and the spook contacts? But I guess even screwballs have standards, rite?
@Comrade potatovich
... I cannot tell if you are joking or not...
Such is the power of how fuckmothering stupid these arrogant assholes have become.
They are literally beyond satire.
This is why I study them.
I need to know how one becomes such mentally atrophied, utterly hopeless cross-eyed morons.
Yet the answer to that question still eludes me...
@Comrade Potatovich: I think i remember the guy, his handiwork was absolutely exquisite. Seriously, the way he managed to make those DC-3s blow up WTC-7 was fucking amazing. Such a shame he managed to get himself killed twenty-seven times.
(Insert mad laughter)
Please, Ms. Barnhardt; take your pills.
(Tovarish potatovich, they are FSB now.)
Ahh, the core component of any good conspiracy theory. An unnamed "friend" with "spook contacts." Tell you what, Ann, I actually served in the military with a Top Secret security clearance, and the first thing they tell you is to never talk about anything you're working on under penalty of a lengthy prison sentence. Not to say that there would never be a leak, but for some reason we never hear of the mundane classified tasks of the intelligence or military world, but we always hear intricate details of bizzare conspiracy theories.
But I'm quite sure that all these unnamed sources in the intelligence community don't really exist. It's just a way to assert proof of your paranoid conspiracy theory without having to show proof. It's similar to a teenage virgin claiming that he's had sex with a dozen women in another city. It doesn't convince anyone.
I will dispense with all nuance and pretense of giving them a fair listen, and simply say...
This birther shit wouldn't happen if Obama was white. Judging from the name, I bet she fancies herself as some winsome, hyperfeminine white waif in eternal danger of being defiled by musky black bucks.
If I had the money, I'd buy her a subscription to some interracial porn.
On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi arab muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years.
They did a good job of hiding all that non-state-of-the-art dialysis equipment in all those videos of him, then.
DNA is not the only way to identify a body. In fact it's only an identification method is you have a matching DNA sample or a preexisting sample from a family member.
Dental records and finger prints are a more likely and efficient ID method.
Facial identification is less accurate but still pretty viable as an ID method.
besidses being a rather stupid rant, what weirds me out the most is that guys like this seem to think that this is actually a good idea. why would you create a massive conspiracy (that can be refuted by your worst enemy just by showing his face) just to improve your ratings?
Oh, and by the way, I've done DNA testing myself. The entire process takes only a few hours from start to finish, at least if you have the Gel mostly cooled. They aren't sequencing his fucking genome, you fucktard. All they need to do is some southern blotting/northern blotting to get a positive ID.
There might be some substance to this, though. No one saw the body, so there is no proof, and the timing with Corsi' book is just too bizzare. My husband and I were also scheduled to lead a conservative rally in the Detroit area called "March to Preserve the African-American Family." Unfortunately, the event was canceled due to lack of attendance, which owed in part to people staying home to watch the news.
@His4Life
Except people DID see the body, military personnel did. They got a positive ID, they took pictures, even tested his DNA. They have plenty of proof, they just won't release it for fear of Bin Laden's corpse being idolized as a martyr. Not to mention Obama realizes that no amount of proof will satisfy conspiracy theorists EVER, so it would be more trouble than it's worth.
I think that the fact that Al Qaeda even admits that he was killed is damning enough, and if you want even MORE proof, then look no further than the vast troves of intelligence they managed to steal from him that proves he was alive and integral to Al Qaeda's present-day workings.
@DevilsChaplain: It's estimated that at least 50% of marriages in Saudi Arabia are between second cousins or closer, and a lot of them are between first cousins. Repeat that over numerous generations, and you get a population with a very high average coefficient of inbreeding, which is associated with increased rates of homozygosity for detrimental recessive genes, and hence with increased rates of genetic defects. What is your objection to this observation?
@His4Life
The raid was made as soon as they became aware of Bin Laden's location. The book and parade had absolutely nothing to do with it.
I really wish you would think BEFOREHAND so that people like me don't have to do it FOR you. Think! Cori's book didn't even relate to Osama Bin Laden! It's about a tired old bullshit claim that Obama wasn't born here, a claim that's been made and refuted long before. Now, had the book talked about Bin Laden, THAT would be suspicious, but it's not! Think! She deliberately obfuscates the fact that Osama Bin Laden was NOT found in a cave, he was found in a wealthy compound, rendering her dialysis argument completely horseshit! Think! These conspiracy theorists are deliberately trying to lie and draw connections that ARE CLEARLY NOT THERE in order to scam people! They're trying to trick people by making bullshit seem interrelated into a conspiracy, but in reality these things are completely independent of one another. It's not even a freaking COINCIDENCE! In order for it to be a coincidence, they would have to ACTUALLY PERTAIN TO EACH OTHER!!
I wish that people weren't so gullible to these blindly obvious lies. Coincidence? My ass.
@Christopher
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@Comrade Potatovich
I'm still mad at you because I can't tell if you're a very good troll or a colossally stupid conspiracy theorist after that "middle east doesn't exist, it's just pictures of death valley" thing.
That said, bullshit. BULL. FUCKING. SHIT. Conspiracy theorists now more than EVER are profiteering off of people's gullibility. Look no further than David Icke's website, you'll see that capitalism is alive and well. Look at the millions people like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck have made. Look at all the books and documentaries. It's become a well-oiled quasi-political goldmine.
@Comrade Potatovich
Ah. So it was a Poe. It's getting harder to tell; they're slipping. Hard. Every day it seems that they become a little more unhinged.
And you are forgiven. It's easy to forget that the existence of conspiracies is, itself, part of a "conspiracy" to make money/ influence politics/ both.
A wonderful link to the humor magazine Cracked gives a perfect example of this in action in the most funny way possible.
http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html
@DevilsChaplain: Cool macro, bro.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9526727
And no, I'm not the person you were responding to earlier (have you considered checking?), and I have no desire to defend the rest of the OP. I was just pointing out that Saudis *are* quite inbred, on average.
@christopher
"And no, I'm not the person you were responding to earlier (have you considered checking?)"
Not everyone who posts does so under their username so it was a valid question to ask.
"and I have no desire to defend the rest of the OP. I was just pointing out that Saudis *are* quite inbred, on average."
I certainly wouldn't call them "deeply inbred" even for their rate of first-cousin marriages. The study only pointed out that the resulting babies were basically smaller on average. You and the OP were making it sound like they resembled the bumfucks from Deliverance .
It wasn't a cave, it was a compound. With a house. And even if it had been a cave, Bin Laden certainly had the money to make it a very comfortable cave, complete with a private clinic if he needed it.
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