No, God is 100% Real. I was saying from a statistical view you would have to agree that you would even as an atheist give the odds at 50/50. There is only one Real God and the Most beautiful Names Belong to Him. There can only be one God because the word God does not mean "a" supreme being but "The" Supreme being, therefore The sovereign God is the Possessor of the Highest Rank.
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Oh, the bad statistics that is everything unknown at 50%. Oh, the lousy word magic that is ontological argument. Oh, the... beauty of God's names?
How can God be 100% real? Maybe you could say that the probability of God existing is 100%, but saying that He is 100% real begs the question of what a 75% real God would look like.
And the idea that probabilities work like he implies (the whole 50/50 thing) shows a lack of understanding of probability. If you have a spinner with 7/8 blue and 1/8 red, the chances of getting red aren't 50/50 just because there are only two possibilities.
Perhaps the piece of "logic" about the meaning of the word "God" would support monotheism against polytheism when referring to "God," but it does nothing in supporting theism versus atheism.
And I am curious about this poster's inconsistant use of capitalization. I would expect "beautiful" and "sovereign" and "being" to be capitalized, but it makes no sense to have "Belong" capitalized.
In addition to the logical failure of claiming that because god must either exist or not exist, there is a 50% chance of either, isn't the whole purpose of atheism to say that God does not exist, so the argument is even more invalid than normal?
OK, let's see...
There's a 50/50 chance each that God, Santa Claus, the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy are real.
Therefore, two of them must be real.
Guess I'll start believing in Santa and the Easter bunny...
There is only one real Santa Claus and the Most Beautiful Names belong to Him: Chris Kringle ... Saint Nick ... Father Christmas
Which sovereign "God" are you referring to?
So, god is now a generalissimo?
Or, is that Field Marshall?
Supreme Commander, Universal Field of Operation?
Or, is it simply a figment of your vivid imagination in combination with delusional psychosis.
I think the last is most logical.
I can do bad math, too. For example:
At any moment, God either self-destructed or He did not. In other words, every moment in time has a 50% probability of God no longer existing. Assuming time is a continuum, in just one second God has done the equivalent of playing Russian roulette with three bullets an infinite number of times. This function tends to non-existence and can be said to have reached that end.
This isn't just probability -- God surely does not exist!
If we assume time is discrete, then probability enters into it. But God then simply becomes astronomically unlikely.
<<< I was saying from a statistical view you would have to agree that you would even as an atheist give the odds at 50/50. >>>
Hell no, I wouldn't. Two possibilities does not mean that they are equally likely. I wouldn't bother setting odds on a deist's God, as it's unknowable and irrelevant even if true. Scientology, I'd say the odds were pretty damn low (given what we know, it's damn near certain that Hubbard just made it all up). But your particular conception of God? Zero, because it is not internally consistent.
"No, God is 100% Real."
As opposed to what, 35% real?
Maybe he meant "No God is 100% Real." I would have to agree.
"I was saying from a statistical view you would have to agree that you would even as an atheist give the odds at 50/50."
No, I do not have to agree with that. Just because there are 2 choices does not mean that each choice is equally valid.
"There is only one Real God"
No, there is NO real God.
"and the Most beautiful Names Belong to Him."
"God" owns the names Siobhan and Sunniva, but Agatha and Gertie are public domain?
"There can only be one God because the word God does not mean "a" supreme being but "The" Supreme being, therefore The sovereign God is the Possessor of the Highest Rank."
Go read your own damn Bible, Dumdum. In Genesis "God" refers to other gods, not false gods, other gods.
If you have an egg nearby, please go suck it.
Written by Bodhitharta
No, God is 100% Real. You inserted an unnecessary comma, which changed the entire meaning of your sentence. Please delete it. I was saying from a statistical view you would have to agree that you would even as an atheist give the odds at 50/50. I know that Professor Pistaferan said this in your statistics class, but he meant it as a joke. He said so quite clearly. Pay more attention and you will avoid embarrassing mishaps like this. There is only one Real God and the Most beautiful Names Belong to Him. There can only be one God because the word God does not mean "a" supreme being but "The" Supreme being, therefore The sovereign God is the Possessor of the Highest Rank. You can't define God into existence that easily. You've only shown that your definition excludes many gods. You haven't shown that one exists. Also, only proper nouns are capitalized.
F. See me after class.
Written by Julian
I also think you'll find any atheist that believes there's a 50% chance that God was made up by man, believes the other 50% is the chance that God was made up by man. I think that "men" might be a better word than "man."
A. Finally, some relief from the fundie onslaught.
Either Bodhitharta will shoot himself in the face with a 12 gauge tommorow, or he won't. Obviously, the odds of each is 50/50. Likewise, either he will or won't shoot himself in the face with a revolver. Further, the same possibilities apply to him shooting himself in the face with a semiautomatic pistol.
Not only that, but these same possibilities are true for every day.
Therefore, there is only a .5^3, or 12.5% (or 1 in 8) chance that Bodhitharta will not shoot himself in the face on any given day... and a 1 in 8 chance that he'll shoot himself in the face 3 times.
thanks for playing Natural Selection: the home game!
"I was saying from a statistical view you would have to agree that you would even as an atheist give the odds at 50/50."
So statistically I have to give 50/50 odds to something I'm 99.99% isn't real? So by that reasoning a christian must give it 50/50 that they are wrong?
"The sovereign God is the Possessor of the Highest Rank"
Unless there are voting problems in Florida.
"God is 100% real"
Not true. Yahweh is made from recontstituted god and god byproducts, vitamins, cod liver oil and lots and lots of filler.
<Either Bodhitharta is a complete fucking loon, or he is a delusional dangerous fundie.>
Remove 'either' and change 'or' to 'and' and the sentence will be much better.
Additionally, this 50/50 chance on the existence of god is false. Look at it this way: if you walk outside one morning and the sky is a clear blue with not a cloud in sight, there is no 50/50 chance of rain. (The evidence for possible rain doesn't exist.) On the other hand, if the sky is cloudy and grey, then there is a better than 50/50 chance of rain. (You have the physical evidence.) To make an assertion about god, you must have some kind of evidence to base the assertion on. But, as you have none, the odds for god existing are greatly reduced.
Pay attention kids...
God can be defined as GOD*(0.75+0.25i) for example, making it part real, part imaginary. The real part tends quickly to zero.
Next week lesson: rational/irrational numbers. Wich one applies to God?
Hah! I get it, you think is/isn't means a 50-50 chance. Of course, that's not the way that logic and statistics work, but if you want to pretend that "two choices means an equal chance for each", then god either
(1) exists as a real entity
(2) does not exist as a real entity
(3) exists as a concept in someone's mind, multiplied by the number of people in the world.
Your "100% real" god now has a really slim chance of being true.
Which god? Shiva, Zeus, Odin, Quetzalcoatl, Jupiter, Brahman?
image
I am an Alicorn
I am ama~zing
I command you to
gaze upon my flank
You'll never find somepony
charming as I am
I'm the swankiest and highest rank
I'm a star
I'm a God
I'm a thing to behold
There are none as resplendent as I
With my beautiful wings
and a horn that fells kings
of my majesty none can deny
“No, God is 100% Real.”
That’s my bumpersticker! “No god is 100% real”
“I was saying from a statistical view you would have to agree that you would even as an atheist give the odds at 50/50.”
So, wait. GOD is 50/50?
And Zeus is 50/50?
And Aphrodite is 50/50?
And all 10,000 gods offered by man are 50/50? That means the odds of any one god are 200 to 1 against.
“There is only one Real God and the Most beautiful Names Belong to Him.”
i’ve read the Bible. ‘HIM’ is racist, sexist, misogynistic, judgmental, inconsistent, easily distracted, with a tendency to overreact.
"There can only be one God because the word God does not mean "a" supreme being but "The" Supreme being, therefore The sovereign God is the Possessor of the Highest Rank.”
There can only be one god because we call him God? That’s logic, where you come from?
But there are plenty of examples of gods that are not supreme beings. what does ‘gods’ mean?
Confused?
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